Official Thread: Adam Morrison [Archive]

Teabag

02-07-2006, 08:43 AM

I don't think it's really fair to give any propect an NBA comparison (even though I like them).... how many 6'10" , 6'11" lean PF's get the next KG lable .... having said that, every past great had a comparison made about them and I'm sure there were people like us out there to shoot them down too .... Bird was compared to someone that probably at the time was a stretch too .... you never know until the career is over wether or not it was just ..... in 20 years someone could be labled the next Morrison and will get flamed too .... I'm a huge fan of his game and think it will translate very well to the NBA
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Jonathan

02-07-2006, 11:21 AM

Also a big fan, and also think it's unfair to make these type of comparisons. The thing is, he plays the game similarly, not as good of course, but just the way he moves around on the court and shoots the ball reminds a lot of Bird.

Yesterday was coincedentally his worst game of the year. He was acting like a total brat, whining at the refs, being completely out of control and also playing pretty poorly on top of that. He refused to play any D at all, wouldn't crash the glass, and took a lot of bad shots with wide open teammates around him (although you kind of want him to do this...)

Hopefully for him this is not a trend, because it will only take a couple more of these before people start forgetting what happened in Maui and right after.

Nikeforged_69

02-07-2006, 03:37 PM

I love watching Adam play. Honestly I think his game will translate well into the NBA game. Much better than Reddick. I hope and pray every night that we will land on the Raptors when draft night rolls around. He is a solid player that will continue to be solid for a long time.

dorkinitup

02-07-2006, 06:16 PM

A player who can score so easily in so many ways is tremendously rare.
Even more so when combined with a winning mentality and all the intangibles Adam possesses. Too often the skilled scorers have attitude problems (AI, Melo) or lack a true position (Wagner, Francis), but Morrison has neither issue. He won't dominate athletically a la Jordan or James, but he fits an old school mold that the league hasn't seen for a while.
He doesn't have the "potential" of the LaMarcus Aldridges or the Rudy Gays, but whichever team ends up with the first pick has to take a long look at him, especially a team like the Bobcats who don't have time to wait on a Rudy Gay and risk falling into expansion team oblivion (like the raptors).

The_Notic

02-07-2006, 08:30 PM

I just love his intensity. If Rudy Gay had half the passion that Adam has for the game, Rudy could be the best thing to come out of college since Duncan.

Chukaman

02-07-2006, 09:08 PM

Yea, he is def. going to be better than Wally...he has more of a well rounded offensive game.

I think his game will translate well into the pros and I can see him avg. 25 ppg in his prime in the NBA....

Jmac

02-07-2006, 10:50 PM

Watching Morrison play is a pleasure that all of us on the west coast get to see quite often. There are some things that he needs to work on (defence in particular) in order to be an effective NBA player but the improvement that he has made since his freshman year is due to hard work that will serve him well in the future.

JoeT

02-07-2006, 11:26 PM

One thing that you absolutely cannot dismiss about Morrison is his ability to create and score at any time. This is absolutely crucial to teams in the NBA, especially come playoff time. He has great poise, swagger, and confidence. He is ridiculously creative with the ball, and as his coaches have said, it seems like he makes up new moves every game. The guy can put the ball in the basket from long range, mid range, and close range. He can do it off-balanced, with hands in his face, from any angle, at any speed, etc. No matter where he is on the floor, he finds a way to get the ball in the hole. And he knows he can do this and he can do it down the stretch of games. He can put a team on his back and score in must-score situations. I think that's something you just can't dismiss. Worst case scenario he is an excellent sixth man for a team. I don't know how succesful overall he will be, or if he will fully overcome his limitations, but there isn't a team in the NBA that would not want him on the floor with ten seconds to go, down one.

Hype

02-07-2006, 11:47 PM

Teabag

02-08-2006, 08:03 AM

Can't deny the guy's passion for the game. Even though he is not the greatest athlete, I think his game will translate well for the NBA. Any team in the league could always use a great shooter in their lineup or off the bench.

that is a very true statement but IMO does not apply to Morrison ... he will be going to a garbage team (Hawks, Bobcats, Raptors .... well I hope the Hawks don't take another 3) and being picked in the top 3 they are hoping that he is more than a shooter off the bench .... he has the total package on O (I've never seen him dunk though) and hopefully can become an adequate defender (I think he isn't that bad on D, he did a really good job on Caner-Medley holding him to 1-6 and 3pts) .... in an era of drafting for potential, Morrison is one that you know what you are getting and is a lock to be a long time starter in the league with the ability to be a star
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Chukaman

02-08-2006, 12:49 PM

that is a very true statement but IMO does not apply to Morrison ... he will be going to a garbage team (Hawks, Bobcats, Raptors .... well I hope the Hawks don't take another 3) and being picked in the top 3 they are hoping that he is more than a shooter off the bench .... he has the total package on O (I've never seen him dunk though) and hopefully can become an adequate defender (I think he isn't that bad on D, he did a really good job on Caner-Medley holding him to 1-6 and 3pts) .... in an era of drafting for potential, Morrison is one that you know what you are getting and is a lock to be a long time starter in the league with the ability to be a star

You've never seen him dunk? You need to watch him a little more often then...I'm pretty sure that you and that guy from St. Mary's are in the same boat...He didn't think Adam can dunk either...And he paid for it...Morrison chooses when and when not to dunk. He understands the importance of a dunk to either boost the crowd (at home) or to silence them (on the road)...so when he does dunk, it really gives his team momentum.

TonyM

02-08-2006, 12:55 PM

one of the better dunks i've seen this year. anyone have a picture of it?

Nikeforged_69

02-08-2006, 01:32 PM

What impresses me most about his game has to be his ability to get to the line. I watched one game where he must have got to the line 12-14 times in the first half. The ability to hit the big time J and the ability to get to the line will help his draft stock go up. It just shows how high this kids basketball IQ is.

fatlever

02-08-2006, 06:40 PM

bobcats... please draft morrison. that's exactly what we need.

every time i watch morrison i like him a little more. he's exactly what the bobcats need... a go to scorer. the bobcats have enough good defenders in felton, okafor and wallace to build around. adding morrison should not have as big of a negative impact on the bobcats defense as other teams because of this.

goodenstuff

02-08-2006, 06:45 PM

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. This year's draft sucks, period. Morrison is a pretty iffy #1 pick. His lack of athleticism will hurt him more than most people think. Bird was not only a better player, but played in an era in which players were inherently less athletic. That said he could very well end up being the best American white guy in league some day, not that that's saying much.

Jonathan

02-09-2006, 02:37 AM

annoying problem of empty threads has been officialy fixed for now. bumping all old threads to the top now.

Casual

02-09-2006, 05:42 PM

While seeing Morrison in person sold me on him as an NBA player, I don't think he's going to be a prolific scorer in the NBA. The fact that he takes such difficult shots to score doesn't strike me as a good attribute, since that inch he's getting the ball over his defender's hand might disappear in the NBA. And he really is bad at defense.

However, the best part of his potential, in my opinion, his movement without the ball. Whenever I watch a Gonzaga game (I see plenty since I live in Seattle), I notice that he's open a lot more than his teammates recognize. A lot of times he runs right under the basket but his teammate will just toss the ball back around the perimeter. I doubt that would happen on the next level. The fact that his three-point shooting improved so dramatically this year also tells me that he can eventually become a major shooting threat beyond the arc.

Of course, his lack of athleticism will hold him back somewhat, but it's an overrated attribute in the NBA. The only thing it will keep him from doing is being a good one on one defender and becoming a dominant scorer. 17 points a game ain't too shabby, though.

dougthonus

02-09-2006, 07:44 PM

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think Morrison is a less athletic Glenn Robinson.

Of course the big dog was a good NBA player except that he didn't have the right attitude, but that wasn't something that was necessarily apparant in college. It seemed like he'd be a great intangible guy at the time (if i remember correctly).

Jonathan

02-10-2006, 01:21 AM

dougthonus

02-10-2006, 09:06 AM

That's not a terrible comparison. Big Dog was an incredible college player and a very successful NBA player too until he gained a lot of weight and lost some of his explosiveness after injuries. I am hoping that Morrison's apparent attitude issues in that one game were just an abberation because that's not the usual guy I was used to seeing in the last two years.

I've always heard very good things about Morrison's intangibles. I would suspect that having diabetes he'll probably won't gain weight as his diet likely has to be controlled very strictly.

raps_aviator

02-10-2006, 11:44 AM

Adam Morrison is probably the best or the second best scorer behind J.J reddick in the draft. They both have the same problems. They need ball handling skills and they are not athletic. Adam is slow for a Small forward but i think he can put up 22 ppg in Nba.

BleedGreen34

02-12-2006, 06:17 PM

i think morrison is a better player than redick, not to mention ive watched redick go from being a highly rated prospect and improving a little every year while morrison has come from out of nowhere and improved greatly every year. i love his attitude, even when he got upset at shawne williams. i hope redick makes it in the L (even for a duke player) but i dont doubt morrison at all.

Jonathan

02-12-2006, 10:11 PM

He did a lot of things really well yesterday on primetime against Stanford. The block and steals in particular stood out to me, as well as the way he carried his team down the stretch and scored their last 12 points of the game in the last few minutes. The 4 3-pointers (mostly from NBA range) didn't hurt either.

Casual

02-13-2006, 01:32 PM

He hasn't been able to drive to the hoop well the past few games, though. He's going to have to figure out how to start mixing it up inside again or else when he has a cold shooting night it's going to be a problem. You could see this against St. Mary's.

SBell

02-13-2006, 05:21 PM

The biggest negative with Morrison is his epistomology.

Manumismo

02-13-2006, 07:02 PM

Morrison really is doing something amazing this year. Did he play like this last year?

jonathan watters

02-14-2006, 12:33 AM

Down the stretch, yes. You could see bits and pieces of what was to come early in the year as well.

Jonathan

02-14-2006, 04:51 PM

Morrison really is doing something amazing this year. Did he play like this last year?

Watters wrote about him on DX all the way back in December of 04, when he REALLY was under the radar.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=81

Reading the article right now, you would think that he had a time machine or something. The scouting report is still dead on, its just that Morrison is even better now.

Also took me to task for only putting him at #13 on the mock draft ALL the way back then...nice :)

Manumismo

02-15-2006, 09:22 AM

At the next level, how successful can Morrison be? I mean comparing him to Larry Bird is quite a bit of a stretch isn't it? Does anyone see him being the next Michael Dunleavy Jr.?

Xericx

02-21-2006, 06:15 PM

Not at all...Morrison has so many different offensive weapons...he can hit shots acrobatically, off balance....Dunleavy is always more of a team player....Morrison is a franchise player.

wigglestrue

02-21-2006, 08:02 PM

If you're going to compare him to another white player...
At least make it Wally Szczerbiak.

wigglestrue

02-21-2006, 08:08 PM

Watters wrote about him on DX all the way back in December of 04, when he REALLY was under the radar.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=81

Reading the article right now, you would think that he had a time machine or something. The scouting report is still dead on, its just that Morrison is even better now.

Also took me to task for only putting him at #13 on the mock draft ALL the way back then...nice :)

I heard comparisons to Bird when he was a freshman.

Manumismo

02-21-2006, 11:33 PM

Not at all...Morrison has so many different offensive weapons...he can hit shots acrobatically, off balance....Dunleavy is always more of a team player....Morrison is a franchise player.

Would you really go that far? I know Morrison is good, but a franchise player? Would you put him in the same class as a Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or Allen Iverson?

I chose Mike Dunleavy because of height, shooting ability, and comparable mobility and supposed detriments (too, slow, not athletic enough?) I think it's a gross stretch to say Adam Morrison will be a franchise player. I can see him being a solid role player but I mean, I wouldn't even put in in the same class of as "lower end franchise players" like Steve Francis, Carmelo Anthony, or Marbury.

Genjuro

02-22-2006, 01:23 PM

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think Morrison is a less athletic Glenn Robinson.
Count me here too. Perhaps also a less athletic Carmelo Anthony. Although I like better the passion that Adam puts in the game.

I haven't seen Morrison enough to make myself a clear opinion about him, but I think this guy is virtually a pure scorer, while Bird was an awesome passer.

What I do enjoy, besides his game, is the legend breeze that surrounds him, with his retro look, his attitude and the fans going crazy about him. Someone in the stands in Spokane was handling a placard where you could read "Adam, Larry called... he wants his talent back". I just loved it.

Xericx

02-22-2006, 05:30 PM

Would you really go that far? I know Morrison is good, but a franchise player? Would you put him in the same class as a Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or Allen Iverson?

I chose Mike Dunleavy because of height, shooting ability, and comparable mobility and supposed detriments (too, slow, not athletic enough?) I think it's a gross stretch to say Adam Morrison will be a franchise player. I can see him being a solid role player but I mean, I wouldn't even put in in the same class of as "lower end franchise players" like Steve Francis, Carmelo Anthony, or Marbury.

I think he'll be a franchise player. Maybe I'll be wrong, but he seems like a guy who will score rather easily....I don't think he's as "frail" as people make him out to be....he actually looks pretty muscular out there. He just seems of the mold.

Manumismo

02-23-2006, 10:56 PM

I think he'll be a franchise player. Maybe I'll be wrong, but he seems like a guy who will score rather easily....I don't think he's as "frail" as people make him out to be....he actually looks pretty muscular out there. He just seems of the mold.

I don't know, I think one of the key ingredients to being a potential franchise player is that you have to have superior atheletiscism. Not too say that Adam Morrison is not athletic but even in this post he has been compared to a less atheletic Glen Robinson. What team in the NBA could be a franchise player for? Or maybe, a better question would be, what is your definition of a franchise player?