Own da Draft 2007

[Scoreboard]

afflalo over almond? c'mon.

[coachjon]

yep for utah affalo makes more sense than almond. affalo is a better defender and utah is mainly looking for a defensive SG which girecek plays no defense. plus utah really liked raja bell when they had him and everyone says affalo could be a second coming of raja so the pick makes sense.

[Mr. Body]

Afflalo is a much better pick for Utah's system there.

[wombat6802]

So sirfreshness, I take it you're buying the "Marion is the first one out" rumors? I really like your pick and if anything, you've got an extremely underrated player coming to Phoenix that makes clearing Marion or Diaw seem like not so bad of an idea...

[sirfreshness]

So sirfreshness, I take it you're buying the "Marion is the first one out" rumors? I really like your pick and if anything, you've got an extremely underrated player coming to Phoenix that makes clearing Marion or Diaw seem like not so bad of an idea...


Im not basing this off the rumors but I feel like McGuire gives them some depth at SF (which is a need) and he can play some PF in our system. Everyone has them taking all international guys they can stash but they also need help on their roster now. McGuire is a good risk for them, and he can provide some more depth to their bench right now. I had it down to taking a PG or a SF/PF. I thought about Taureen Green but I felt they can take a flier on a PG at the end of the second round and if he doesnt work out they still can play LB at PG. It would be harder to fill the SF/PF role at 59 than filling the PG role there.

[Mr. Body]

McGuire is a good pick for Phoenix. He'll need to develop his shooting to work best within the system, but as a good ball handler, rebounder, and shot-blocker, he can get some time right away.

[Cascadia]

Just checking in. Letting you know I'm here for all those 2nd rounders.

[coachjon]

we are through pick #32 Cascadia

[fatdan]

i think somebody should break down the draft after it's done and grade it .I think that would be very intertesting to know what each team got out of the draft.

[Cascadia]

ecuhus...

I like Gasol at #35 for Seattle. Good pick.

[Scoreboard]

still waiting for someone to draft the guy considered to be the next pat garrity.

i don't know if any of you played NBA Live 2003 but in that game garrity was unbelievably good (especially from downtown) and well exceeded his playing abilities. it's fond memories of playing that game that make any player who gets referenced to garrity a top-notch guy in my book.

...any guesses as to who i'm refering to?

[Cascadia]

#37 Blazers - Alando Tucker... I can't pass on a 1st team All American left on the board at #37. I don't care if he is short for the SF position. Tucker's got a big enough wingspan and vertical leap to play the SF position at the NBA level.... barely. With Oden and Aldridge on the floor, the Blazers can afford to be a wee bit short at the SF position.

Aldridge may get the Durant assignment, though.

[ecuhus]

Oooh, the matchup of two former University of Texas stars and Big XII DPoYs just adds more to the rivalry! Of course, Tucker doesn't solve any long-range shooting issues, but you're absolutely right, Cascadia, Tucker is just too good to last this long.

As for the Garrity clone, I'm guessing he just got picked by the Warriors. With Visser's long-range accuracy (reminiscent of Garrity :) ), he should fit right in!

[fatdan]

The heat have the 39th pick in the van gundy deal

[wombat6802]

Ecuhus,

Since when can Visser shoot three pointers? Actually, since when can Visser make a jumpshot outside of 10 feet? I've watched/listened to every game he's ever played at Wake and I'm not sure that he's ever taken a legitimate three pointer before (note: ESPN.com says that in 4 years of college ball, he's made one and taken 3)... Please enlighten me:

[ecuhus]

That was purely in jest. Kyle Visser was my guess to the question posed by Scoreboard (who is this draft's Pat Garrity). As I recall, Garrity didn't have much long-range accuracy, so I... just read Scoreboard's post.

[sirfreshness]

With the hiring of SVG Miami may make the pick, since it is now theirs

[mullet is gone]

No major problems with the draft so far. A few guys went a bit early (Conley, Affalo, Cook etc..) and a few have gone/are going a bit late (Fazekas anyone?) but its the NBA draft. If this is how the draft goes down in reality then the hawks have made out like bandits. Top 3 point and top 3 centre, thats two of the most difficult NBA positions filled with genuine NBA talent. How will Billy screw this up I wonder? Yi at 3 maybe, it could happen.......

[Scoreboard]

ahhhhhh! mullet unintentionally nailed it. nick fazekas has drawn comparisons to the infamous pat garrity (i'm assuming solely on the basis that he's a tall white guy who can shoot 3's).

fazekas' college resume is far more impressive though and i'm surprised he hasn't been taken yet. i'm hoping the suns take him at #29 and see if they mold him into a tim thomas-esque player. we saw know how thomas thrived in the phoenix system and i think fazekas is a perfect fit there.

[Cascadia]

Glad I've been drinking http://www.potchefstroom.co.za/gizmomarketing/images/p_red_bull.jpg through the whole draft.

http://www.potchefstroom.co.za/gizmomarketing/images/p_red_bull.jpg gives you http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_action/89301.jpeghttp://carolinaweek.org/images/SPRING2006/060206dunk.jpg

[sirfreshness]

I dont feel like Nick F has fallen that much he will probably get picked soon and I tell you Orlando would have really like to have a big to match up with Howard you can also spread the floor for him by hitting 3s but with the signing of SVG they had to forfeit their first pick in the draft.

[sirfreshness]

Looks like Nick F will not be there for the Magic to scoop up

[wombat6802]

Ace pick, Cascadia. Terry should be a steal.

[Cascadia]

Ace pick, Cascadia. Terry should be a steal.

Thanks. Terry reminds me a lot of another ex-Tarheel, George Lynch.

[wombat6802]

I'd say that the primary difference lies in Terry's love of the perimeter and Lynch's versatility as he did play a decent amount of post basketball during his NBA and collegiate career. Terry also figures to be a much better defender at the next level and could emerge as a legitimate defensive stopper at some point in his career.

[fatdan]

I think a brake down of each team in the draft is something that is needed to really see who were the winner and loser .then a panel judges will judge each team to see who came out the best right now it obvious that the soincs most likely have best draft but that could change over the next few days.

[wombat6802]

Yeah, but let's finish the draft first, fatdan.

[Cascadia]

Looks like Nick F will not be there for the Magic to scoop up

Well... scoop somebody up. You're on the clock ;)

[sirfreshness]

Well... scoop somebody up. You're on the clock ;)

I have done so, the pressure is now on the next person

[sirfreshness]

bumping

[Cascadia]

pr0wler is on the clock

[Cascadia]

Nextstar1019 on the clock

[mullet is gone]

Somebody take a punt on Russel Carter........Theres going to be some decent undrafted players on summer league this year.

Glen Davis at golden state? Hows that work exactly....he better have lost 40 pounds.

[Cascadia]

So have you guys just quit on this mock draft?

No activity on this thread. No PMs. 1 pick in 4 days. Do you guys intend to finish this?

[fatdan]

it's a very important time in the draft it takes time to think it out because you have a franchise in the balance and nobody trying to get fired!

[Hitster]

It's 2nd round picks, none of these guys will see much playing time for a while or will still be playing in the Siberian league.

[Cascadia]

It's 2nd round picks, none of these guys will see much playing time for a while or will still be playing in the Siberian league.

So we're all things when we see Manu Ginobili with on TV with NBA title rings on his hand? Danial Gibson and Paul Millsap getting important playoff minutes is a figment of our imagination? Gilbert Arenas is a mass hallucination in DC?

Everyone agreed to do a full 2 round mock draft. If you weren't committing to do a full 2 round mock draft, why did you take the teams? Stop being so freakin' lazy.

[sirfreshness]

it's a very important time in the draft it takes time to think it out because you have a franchise in the balance and nobody trying to get fired!


Very true I had to think out a lot about whether I wanted to take a project like Wilson Chandler, my owner gave me all the responsibility to build the team and said I would be around to reap the rewards of my picks so I figured I would go with upside but I understand why some people are having to really think hard about this I wouldnt want to see any of them getting fired.

[sirfreshness]

On a real note come on guys it isnt hard to look at who is out there, and what your teams needs are

[Scoreboard]

Glen Davis at golden state? Hows that work exactly....he better have lost 40 pounds.

lmao, i was thinking the same thing. i could easily see them parking him at their end of the court and just running a ridiculously fast offense that shoots within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock so the opposing coach fails to realize that davis is never crossing the half-court line.

[fatdan]

I guess the poster was thinking that big baby was in shape and could use his quickness and rebounding on a team like that.I though he was in shape at the start of the season. they were so bad i have not heard much about him since.he must have put back on the weight

[coachjon]

i am waiting on nextstar as soon as he picks and i am online, have some running around to do, my pick will be up. he has been on since he has been on the clock so i sent him a reminder PM to make his pick.

[shakes the clown]

i am waiting on nextstar as soon as he picks and i am online, have some running around to do, my pick will be up. he has been on since he has been on the clock so i sent him a reminder PM to make his pick.


and I think I'm after you coach.

[Cascadia]

#47 Wizards - Fesenko

Good value at #47, plus the Wizards have need in the post. Wizards are going to be trading Haywood in the off-season, and there are suiters lining up to bid way more on Blatche than the Wizards were planning on offering. Etan Thomas is nothing real special, and probably should be bench depth. Jason Smith and Fesenko are just what the doctor ordered.

[coachjon]

I had already taken a SG and PG so this pick was between a SF or PF. I liked both Quenton Hosley (because he gives the Lakers insurance in case Walton leaves and even if he doesn't a 3rd SF that brings stuff to the table that Walton and Radmanovic don't such as athleticism and slashing ability), but went with Zoran Erceq. He is a foreign guy the Lakers can keep overseas to develop or bring over right away. He is versatile, has a lot of potential, can hit the midrange jumper (a need of PF's in the triangle) and he is a good passer with a high basketball IQ (two other traits needed to fit into the triangle).

[shakes the clown]

with the 49th pick the Chicago Bulls select Adam Haluska of the University of Iowa.

[Cascadia]

Last few picks...

50. Dallas - Herbert Hill by Mavs128
51. Chicago - JamesOn Curry by Shakes the Clown
52. Portland - Zabian Dowdell by Cascadia
53. Portland - Stanko Barac by Cascadia

On Dowdell: Jarrett Jack trade rumors are heating up. Last night on the Blazers "official" local weekly radio show, both Mike Barrett and Mike Rice (Blazers TV play-by-play team) said they think Jack will be traded soon. Dowdell is a good value pick at 52, but he's also a good fit for Nate McMillan. Dowdell's perimeter defense skills are outstanding. Pretty good scoring and distribution skills, too. If Jack isn't traded, Dowdell is one of the short list of PG prospect available in this draft that probably would beat out Dan Dickau for the 3rd PG slot in training camp because he brings such good perimeter defense skills to the table.

On Barac: Solid post prospect the Blazers can leave in Europe to continue his development. Raef LaFrentz' contract expires in two years. Blazers can bring Barac to Portland at the point Raef's is dealt somewhere next summer as an expiring contract, or the following summer when LaFrentz leaves as a free agent.

[ecuhus]

Yeah, 3 very solid picks. Ben Gordon is gone if Kobe talks continue, so getting a backup shooter would be a good priority at this point. Even if Air Gordon stays, Curry could be a cheap alternative if contract talks get to rich next summer.

And Cascadia's two picks would certainly make Nate proud.

[shakes the clown]

Yeah, 3 very solid picks. Ben Gordon is gone if Kobe talks continue, so getting a backup shooter would be a good priority at this point. Even if Air Gordon stays, Curry could be a cheap alternative if contract talks get to rich next summer.

And Cascadia's two picks would certainly make Nate proud.


ecuhus, what do you think of the Haluska pick? Personally, I think he'll be gone by the time the Bulls draft, but if he's there I think he is a steal. All you have to do is take one look at Matt Carroll and its not hard to see Haluska carving out a very solid niche in the NBA. He's a better athlete than Carroll, same size and pretty much the same level of shooter. And Carroll is an occassional starter in the NBA. There's no such thing as a sure thing second rounder, but Haluska is pretty much as close as you can get. Stash him in the NBDL for a year or two to get him minutes and then put him right into the rotation on the big club.

Guys like that never hurt you.

[nextstar1019]

cascadia, i liked your pick of barac...i think he will turn out to be a nice player for whoever he plays for

[wombat6802]

excellent pick sirfreshness. that's a good need/insurance pick for the magic and one that could pay gigantic dividends in the near future.

[sirfreshness]

excellent pick sirfreshness. that's a good need/insurance pick for the magic and one that could pay gigantic dividends in the near future.

Yea I was looking at giving them PF or C depth but when I looked at the players who had just been taken off the board, and who was still there I had to take him. They still expect JJ to be the guy they need but this gives them a backup plan and an intriguing prospect they can keep in Europe. The Magic will try to resign Darko so PF isnt that huge of a need, and anyone taken this late probably will not give the production needed anyway (at least right away). If Landry goes undrafted he would be a decent guy to offer a summer invite to. This gives them the roster space to use their money in FA, and they now have to high potential players Chandler and Sebutis who could play some serious dividends down the road during Howard's peak.

[Scoreboard]

please, somebody take warren carter of illinois. i know he doesn't warrant the pick but i wanna send this mock draft to him upon completion and falsely get his hopes up of seeing another illini alum in the nba.

[ecuhus]

Fatdan, I LOVE the Quinton Hosley pick.

I decided to take another long-armed athlete to go with Prince, Amir Johnson, Cheick Samb and Jason Maxiell in the Pistons' frontcourt of the future.

[wombat6802]

Your pick was very nice as well, ecuhus. You're building the team for the future alright.

[fatdan]

hosley was defintely the best player available.he is a first round talent with 2nd round hype i think he will be very soild player

[Qman]

Have you done pick 55 yet?

[coachjon]

yep we are on pick 59 now.

[sirfreshness]

Sorry I took so long guys I had been extremely busy lately, and I couldnt help but pick Jordan for the Suns.

[Scoreboard]

as a suns fan i love that pick. perfect guy to throw a 2nd round pick at if you have nash.

[sirfreshness]

as a suns fan i love that pick. perfect guy to throw a 2nd round pick at if you have nash.

Yea instead of just picking a euro at this point (which I did with the portland pick at 54) this time I decided the Suns (who had picked SG and SF/PF) could take shot at a guy who will get a lot of attention for summer league invites. The Suns want to guarantee his services, instead of fighting with everyone else after the draft in FA they decide to use their late 2nd on him.

[Scoreboard]

yea i agree. the suns don't want to be forced into giving a larger contract to a 1st round pick (hence the emphasis to trade up or go euro), they're more likely to keep a sleeper in the 2nd round that'll restrict them less financially.