Official Thread: Jose Juan Barea

[admin]

Jose Juan Barea, PG
21 years old 6'0" 173 lbs.
Northeastern, Senior

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[illpo]

Straight up, if he would have gone to a big school, we'd be discussing his top 20 draft status.... last year. This kid's game is absurd.

[shaman]

He had 18 assists at the Portsmouth. Is that a record?

[shaman]

I mean...that was at today's game....

[Manumismo]

I wonder which NBA teams would be most interested in him? I have only seen him play in Halifax, and he was really impressive there. He didn't seem as ball aggressive then to me, how are his teammates at Northeastern?

[wombat6802]

Keydren Clark scored more
Marcus Williams assisted more

but Barea is the best college basketball point guard this year.

with a 1.79 A/TO ratio and a monster 8.4 assists a game, Barea was the star point guard of the CAA. The closest assist man on his team? Bobby Kelly at 1.7. The closest assist man in the CAA? John Goldsberry at 5.2.

The ACC was led by Greg Paulus at around 5.5 a clip.

While his shooting percentage was kind of poor, at the NBA level, he won't be the primary option on his team. He will be first and foremost a point guard, and as proven by his numbers, he is just as willing to pass as shoot.

He is hardnosed, driven, and has tested himself against the best talent in the nation and the world (for Team Puerto Rico).

Jose Juan Barea is for real. He is the best point guard in this draft and is a great point guard at that... On a team like Detroit or Atlanta, Barea would be great as a reserve defensive minded unselfish point guard who is willing to put his team before his numbers.

I see him going in the first round, not necessarily the first point guard picked, but definitely a top 20-25 selection.

I think that he will make it in the league.

Anyone else?

[TheRedStorm]

Ive been an NU student for 4 years and watched this kid play. Everything Jonathon wrote hit it on the dot.

The other talent on the NU squad is really just Shawn James; the NCAA leader in blocked shots and a solid rebounder. His offense is ok, nothing NBA material, but improving with year to year. Outside of him theres probably no other notable talent on the squad.


From the NU athletics website:
http://www.gonu.com/mbasketball/news/bareaPIT.htm

"Senior Jose Juan Barea made a statement this week to NBA scouts in attendance at the 54th annual Portsmouth Invitational Tournament in Portsmouth, Va. The four-day tournament gives 64 college seniors one more opportunity to showcase their talents before the Chicago Draft Camp.

Barea turned in absolutely stellar numbers over three games. He averaged 15.0 points per game, 13.6 assists and 5.6 rebounds, while committing just five turnovers the entire weekend. He set the PIT tournament records for assists in a game (18) and in the tournament (41) and was honored with the Allen Iverson Award for inspiration and effort.

"It was a lot of fun and it was a great tournament," said Barea. "It was good to finally get to meet all those great players, too." Barea hopes to become the Huskies' 15th-ever NBA draft pick, and first since Reggie Lewis, Andre Lafleur and Gerry Corcoran were selected in 1987."

[carliV12]

All throughout his life Jose Juan Barea has made a habbit of proving critics and non-beleivers wrong. They have always had an excuse to try and find a major weakness in his game. He's always been to small, when he's the best player on the team, like he was at Northeastern, and he puts up 25 or 30 a game then he's a ball hog. When he tries to make the people around him better and gets more than ten assits then he's scared of taking the shot and does not have the skills to take over a game. They always have something to say, they always say he can't, but the fact of the matter is he always shows up and surpasses any expectations and simply leaves you in awe.

Jose is a close friend of mine and I have known him sinse I was a little kid, so I have have seen him perform at every level. When he played high school in Puerto Rico he was so far above any other player that it was just not fair, so he went and played a year in The U.S. and again they said he was to short, but all he did was captain his team to the Florida State Championship, against teams that included the likes of Amare Stoudemire. Then no major college program beleived this kid was for real so he went to play at a school were they gave him a chance, all he did was retire as one of the schools leaders in both points and assists. He was all-conference every year and finally this year was named CAA player of the year, a conference which included a couple of NCAA tournament teams including final four cinderella Gerge Mason. He was the only player to be Top 20 in both scoring and assists for two years straight, at NU he was an all-america honorable mention and a finalist for the Bob Cousy award twice...and they said he couldn't cut it at this level. Now nobody beleives he can make it at the NBA level, well I say this not as a friend but, as a fan of basketball, he has a better all around game and more capability to make those around him better (as he showed at Portsmouth) than any other point guard in the draft. Maybe there are point guards withj more potential to develop, there are definitely taller ones; but not a single one of them have the drive, the desire, the passion and the heart tha JJB has. It is these same qualities along with his game that have allowed him to silence his critics at every level, and if given the chance there is no doubt in my mind he will once again do this in the NBA. Had he played at a major program this would'nt have been an issue, but just look at the numbers and look at his accomplishments, all this kid knows how to do is win...he is for real, you better beleive it!

[ELIEZER]

I Think Atlanta, Philadelphia And The Lakers Are Teams That Needs A Good Distributor, And J.j The "tiny Tank" Barea Is The Best Choice.

Where Can He Go? Where Is The Best State For Him?

[test]

I got to see JJB for play for 2 years while he was in the America East and everything the NU guys are saying is correct. The kid has heart ands at times unstoppable. In the AE tourney he put up 40 points against Maine which was an unbelievable single effort. He needs to stop jacking up threes and is also alot closer to 5'9 then 6'.

[MYoung23]

Ive only seen Barea once his junior year so I have a couple of questions that hopefully can be answered.

Can he defend the point of attack? NBA rules make it advantageous for quick and athletic PGs since you cant touch an opposing ballhandler while he's out on the floor. Can he pressure the ball and not be a complete turnstile when he's matched up with Arenas, Paul, Felton, etc.

Can his shot mechanics be fixed? Barea is obviously not going to be a primary scoring option for any NBA team but if he is a role player on a team with slashing wings or a post presence he is going to have to be a threat spotting up with range. Also, in the NBA you arent going to be effective in the pick and roll game if your shot isnt respected. Any decent NBA defense is going to go under the screen and take away penetration. On other boards Ive seen people try and compare him to Jameer Nelson. Nelson can shoot and get his shot off which gives him a leg up as a small guard being to start in the NBA

[Aton]

Just curious... any indication so far if he's playing in japan for puerto rico?

[shaman]

Barea will work out for the Kings and the Raptors next month. The news are in two puertorrican newspapers today. ("El Nuevo Dia" and "Primero Hora")

[KingsFan]

He would be a good fit for both teams. Raptors need someone to help feed the towers they got and the Kings need someone to come in and effectively run the offense so that Bibby can get some rest.

[Jacky]

He would be a great fit with the kings. Kings have enough scoring options, all he would have to do is run the offense and play aggressive defense.

[cjperez]

Just curious... any indication so far if he's playing in japan for puerto rico?
Doubtful, the coach seems inclined to keep the same core and nt experiemnt with the younger players. It doesn't help that Barea is a PG, a position which is already loaded for us even though the only name most people will recognize is Arroyo.

[ELIEZER]

Bare Is Playing For Santurce, Pr...he's Not Getting A Lot Of Minutes, He Just Want To Stayed In Shape.but He Has Taken 2 Winning Shots And Made It At The Buzzer...

The Only True Pg In The Draft Is Barea, Believe Me Or Not

[ramoncito]

Can he defend the point of attack? NBA rules make it advantageous for quick and athletic PGs since you cant touch an opposing ballhandler while he's out on the floor. Can he pressure the ball and not be a complete turnstile when he's matched up with Arenas, Paul, Felton, etc.

Can his shot mechanics be fixed? Barea is obviously not going to be a primary scoring option for any NBA team but if he is a role player on a team with slashing wings or a post presence he is going to have to be a threat spotting up with range. Also, in the NBA you arent going to be effective in the pick and roll game if your shot isnt respected. Any decent NBA defense is going to go under the screen and take away penetration. On other boards Ive seen people try and compare him to Jameer Nelson. Nelson can shoot and get his shot off which gives him a leg up as a small guard being to start in the NBA[/QUOTE]


I dont know if you know but JJB basically schooled chris paul in an international tournament in which Puerto Rico won silver and USA won Gold, however, Barea was named the best juvinile pointguard in the world internationally. Chris Paul today is the best candidate for rookie of the year of the NBA. This should give you an idea of how good he is, and this was just a couple of years ago. This kid has blossomed even more throughout the years into what I am certain is an NBA caliber player. This kid can flat out play. He is driven to better his game constantly. he is already playing professionally in Puerto Rico, which is one of the best basketball leagues in the western hemisphere, and is participating in different try-outs, with the kings, and the raptors. This guy is dedicated to succeed in the world of basketball and as the song says, it's "10% luck, 20% skill, 15% CONCENTRATED POWER OF WILL, 5% pleasure, 50% fame, and 100% reason to remember your name". This guy has all the tools in surplus baby.

About his shot mechanics, that's fixable man. you get a good trainer and practice time (this shouldn't be a problem for him. This guy lives to practice) and problem fixed. And besides.....if that is the way he scores, then who can argue with him? have you seen shawn marion shoot? its disgusting, but that's how he scores, so no one bashes at him....

JJB will go in the first round, and will improve the team he signs with, on and off the court, immidiately. I hope this answers your questions. Anything else, holler kid.

[ramoncito]

Also, although our Puerto Rican team is loaded at the point, I think that Coach Julio Toro can't afford to not take Jose Juan. I think he is right now the second best Puerto Rican point guard. So in that light, and after carefull analysis of the Puerto Rican nteam in these past few years, I can say that Puerto Rico does not have the luxury to not take the best players it has at each position. That said, I believe that we will take Jose Juan, as well as our own Guillermo Diaz (SG for UM), said to go before Jose Juan in the draft this year.

[ELIEZER]

Guillermo Diaz Willl Not Play For Pr National Team, He Said That To Puerto Rico Press.

Arroyo Is The Staring Pg, Joe Hatton Will Sub Him, Barea Could Play Is Ca Or Bjh Is Playing Sg. Joe Hatton Was Last Year Pr Bsn Mvp, But Yes, Barea Will Have More Opportunities Than Hatton In The Pro Level. I Just Want To See Peter John Ramos Getting Big Minutes For P.r

[ramoncito]

when did guillermo say he won't play? I think you are confusing with last year when he said that he wasn't going to participate with the sub21 team for the world championship in Argentina. Because I don't think that he wants to let the opportunity of having lots of exposure to NBA scouts in an event like this, and if anything I don't think that he wants to not represent his country if he is given the opportunity to do so.

I don't think that bobby joe hatton will make the team this year (if its done right). If it is done right, the PG's should be Arroyo (obviously), then Christian Dalmau (he is playing, and real well, in Poland), and then Jose Juan Barea. Those are the PG's that Puerto Rico should take to the world championship in japan this year.....I think that guillermo is going to play (unless it is true that he announced that he won't be playing which is a shitty move on his part), joining Elias "Larry" Ayuso, and Rick Apodaca (he is playing in Poland as well). But if Guillermo isn't really going, then they'll probably take Alejandro "Bimbo" Carmona (who plays for the Vaqueros de Bayamon in Puerto Rico, and is destroying the league), or Joel Jones Camacho (who I believe also plays for the Vaqueros de Bayamon in Puerto Rico and is also destroying the league).

To finish, I also wish that Peter John Ramos also gets good quality minutes and takes advantage of his opportunities so he can move on to the wizards and be given a real chance to shine. I think everybody in the Puerto Rican community is rooting for Peter.

[TheRedStorm]

http://www.gonu.com/mbasketball/video/barea.htm

[ramoncito]

http://www.gonu.com/mbasketball/video/barea.htm

Thanks for the link kid.....awsome video.....I still can't get off my mind that fantasy shot where he took all five of the other team's players and scored....that was amazing kid......and also the second-to-last clip where he steals it and passes it to the guy penetrating for the easy lay-up.....man that was so sweet and so fast. I had to rewiend like crazy until I finally saw the pass.....it looked so effortless as though he didn't even touch the ball off the dribble and instead just guided it with super magic powers.....jajajajaja...................This kid is for real....good looking out RedStorm, thanks for the video......Barea goes in the first round for sure man.

[ELIEZER]

Guillermo Said To El Nuevo Dia, That He Wont Play For Puerto Rico National Team, And He Even If Not Get Drafted He Would Not Play For P.r Superior League... And He Talk About Not Playing In Japan With Puerto Rico...he Said That He Still Have A Hard Feeling For Puerto Rico He Dont Said What For Was That, I Think Maybe He Was Cut By A Bsn Pr Team Or Something Early In His Career

[ramoncito]

wow................i only understood that he said no to el nuevo dia, and that he won't play for Puerto Rico in japan or on a BSN team if he doesn't get drafted (which I highly doubt). Why would he say no and be so aggresive about not playing for us if he speaks so fondly about Puerto Rico, and about wanting to be close to home and shit? that's messed up. There's gotta be something behind this......anyone know what's going on with this? if anyone wants to make a thread separated from this one to talk about guillermo, then let us know so that we can go there, and still talk about Jose Juan in this one.

[ELIEZER]

Hey Ramoncito I Think I Still Have The Newspaper Where I Read The Article Of Guillermo, If I Found It I Will Post It On Diaz Thread.

[ramoncito]

chevere. make sure you let us know about it.

[stroshow3]

I have no idea where Jonathon got his info on intangibles. I'm from VT and followed JJB throughout his first 3 years when NU was in the America East (with UVM). Throughout his AE career, he was known as a dirty player with a quick temper. He had many technicals and several more severe incidents including slapping BU's Rashad Bell in the 2003 Conference tourney, pushed another player during the same season. In the 2005 Conf Champ game, he threw several punches at UVM's Martin Klimes. This game was on ESPN and the incident has been documented well. JJB is a very talented player and for the sake of the mid-majors I hope he is successful in the NBA but to say that he "has a great head on his shoulders" and is "a pleasure to be around both on and off the court" simply is wrong. Anyone who follows the AE can tell you that, including NU fans. I know nothing about his behavior in the CAA.

[w21t8]

I've seen him play many times and he is the real deal. He is a true point guard, not a 2 trying to be a 1. He will do better with better talent around him and he knows how to distribute the ball. At times he does lose his temper which will have to change. If a team needs a pure 1 guard they should take him. He did great at Portsmouth.

[ELIEZER]

Barea Will Be The Pre Draft Camp Mvp

[ramoncito]

Anyone know how he did in his training with sacramento?

[ramoncito]

Anyone know how he did in his training in Sacramento?

[ramoncito]

sorry for posting twice guys.............

[wombat6802]

I'd like to know also

[ELIEZER]

ITS NOT UPDATED BUT JOSE JUAN BAREA WEB PAGE GOT HIS STATS, AWARDS....

www.gobarea.com

[ramoncito]

do you check it constantly? tell us when his news from his trainings are in. THANKS

[shaman]

any news on Barea's workouts?

[ramoncito]

no news so far that I have found

anybody?

[mavs128]

Is it just me or would JJB be THE perfect pick for the Suns? Finally a PG that can back up Nash and let him rest? There are very few PGs who can potentially do what Nash does, but JJB is one of them IMO.

[ramoncito]

now there is a thought
that is actually not a bad idea

JJB's game is very similar to nash's. he could rest nash and keep the suns playing the same basketball while he is not in the game.

[shaman]

He worked out today with the wolves:

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/workouts_060523.html

[TheRedStorm]

http://www.gonu.com/mbasketball/news/barea52406.htm

Barea busy with tryouts as NBA Draft nears
May 24, 2006
Boston, Mass.

Husky Photo
Jose Juan Barea hopes to become the 15th Husky selected in the NBA Draft.
Colonial Athletic Association Player of the Year Jose Juan Barea has been busy in the weeks leading up to the June 28 NBA Draft. The All-America honorable mention has traveled the country working out with NBA teams while he prepares for the NBA Pre-Draft Camp to be held this year in Orlando from June 6-10.

Over the past few weeks, Barea has worked out with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Los Angeles Lakers, Toronto Raptors, Sacramento Kings and Golden State Warriors. At the end of this week, he is scheduled work out with the Boston Celtics.

Barea impressed scouts with his dominant performance at the Portsmouth Invitational, where he averaged 15 points per game, 13.6 assists and 5.6 rebounds, while committing just five turnovers the entire weekend. Scouting reports typically point to his quickness, ball handling and ability to penetrate as strengths and list him as a potential second round draft pick. Barea hopes to become the first Husky to be drafted by the NBA since 1987 when Reggie Lewis and Gerry Corcoran were selected by the Boston Celtics in the first and seventh rounds, respectively, while Andre LaFleur was a fifth round selection for Houston.

Northeastern's second all-time leader in scoring (2290) and assists (721), Jose Juan Barea is a three-time All-Conference first team selection, a two-time finalist for the Bob Cousy Award, presented to the nation's top point guard, and was honored as the CollegeInsider.com Mid-Major Player of the Year in 2005-06.

[shaman]

For the ones who know spanish:

http://www.primerahora.com/noticia.asp?guid=28B7AFEF979946749EBB306A1015001A&newscat=accion_deportiva&newssubcat=baloncesto

For the ones who don't, it says Barea will play this weekend with the Santurce Crabbers (Puertorrican League) in Round Robin action. Then on tueday he'll be back in the states to continue workouts with Charlotte or New Jersey. He was sheduled to workout this weekend with Charlotte but then changed the date. Yesterday he had a "closed door" workout with the Celtics.

[shaman]

What are they thinking not inviting this guy to Camp?!

[shaman]

Barea is killing the competition in Puerto Rico....

[wombat6802]

seems like he kills the competition everwhere... It's kind of a no-brainer drafting him. He is by far the best point guard (with Williams) in this draft. Why don't people see this?? Especially based on his showing at Portsmouth where he had the ability to be a point guard first and scorer second.

[Manumismo]

Anyone have any news out of the workouts he's been doing? Has he done much to improve his draft position?

[shaman]

Private workout tomorrow for Barea with the Pistons....
http://www.endi.com/XStatic/endi/template/nota.aspx?n=16689

[wombat6802]

any news??? He is a can't miss PG prospect...

[shaman]

He will play the Puertorrican League Finals (Santurce) starting tommorrow. He's been the key for his team to go all the way. He is going against Filiberto Rivera (UTEP last year) Caguas team. This is a dream matchup because those two are the future PG for the Puerto Rico National Team and are competing for a spot backing up Arroyo at the World's this summer. Games will be televised in the US on WAPA America network.

[ELIEZER]

Jose Juan Barea Is Playing In The P.r Bsn League, His Team, Santurce Is In The Finals Playing V.s Caguas. Barea Outstanding Play In The Semifinals Against Arecibo Was Tha Main Reason For His Team To Be In The Finals. If Anyone Heve Not Seen Him Play? He Is The Only Point Guard In This Year Nba Draft That Can Do It All With Just 5'11 He Really Goes Hard To The Basket Like Iverson, He Can Pass Like Nash, Great Court Vision Like Kidd, The Only Weakness Is His 3pt Shot, Just Like Kidd, Even The Mechanics, But Could Be Better .
Barea Should Be The First Pg Taken In The Draft, The Only Reason That Is Not Going Ti Happen Is Beacause He Played College In A Small Conference, But In Skills And Heart He Is The True Point.

[wombat6802]

amen to that.

[insur]

Book me on this, the Pistons will select Barea with the last pick in the draft.

[wombat6802]

It would be a horrible waste of his talents to land on the sinking pistons. Whoever said Dallas sounded really good...

[metrocard]

Barea is one of my personal favorite prospects, I feel he deserve the attention coming into this draft.

In any sports draft, its the right and accurate choice to choose a positive attitude intelligent basketball player...no matter what round it is, cause that'll help the team. Barea is that team guy, who did whatever was possible for Northeastern, a team with only one decent basketball player, and a 2nd round prospect for next year Shawn James.

Now Barea is the top player in the BSN (Most consider this league a top 2-3 league in the Americas behind NBA, and NCAA in terms of competition). Barea is competiting against one of the best defensive PG's in the league and coming out of college Andres Rodriguez and has overcome the challenge helping his team win games against a strong team.


Barea's weakness is his long range shooting and size.

An excuse for those is that Northeastern lacks alot of decent perimeter players, so alot of plays die, where Barea has to force up alot of 3 pointers. He has a good shooting form, and with time he'll get better.

For his size, Barea is a good rebounder and isn't afraid to patrol the paint getting inside against stronger and bigger basketball players.


I think Barea can sneak into the late first, and go to a good team who's in need of a young pass first PG who can beat his man off the dribble with ease.

http://hoop-rap.com/news/newsview.php?getstory=699

Barea Moving Up Draft List

Jun 19, 2006



By: Walter Villa



BAREA MAY PLAY FOR NATIONAL TEAM.
http://hoop-rap.com/images/newspics/4496f25d4fa45.jpg


BAREA AVERAGING 18 POINTS IN BSN FINALS.
http://hoop-rap.com/images/newspics/4496f25d65958.jpg



Jose Juan Barea's draft stock continues to rise due to several factors, including his excellent showings in individual workouts with NBA teams, his recent play in Puerto Rico's championship series and a deadline that brought important news.

Sunday was the deadline for players to withdraw their names from the June 28 draft. And according to DraftExpress, at least three players who had been projected as first-round picks have pulled out.

Forward Tiago Splitter of Brazil was considered a lock to go in the first-round, but when he did not get the top-10-pick guarantee he was looking for, he withdrew.

Pitt center Aaron Gray, a late-first probability, also withdrew to return to college. Spain's Rudy Fernandez, another lock first-rounder, withdrew.

Among other players who withdrew were guard Richard Roby, who some saw as a late-first-rounder, Nick Fazekas, Bobby Brown and Arron Afflalo.

All that helps Barea, who recently worked out for the Detroit Pistons.

"He had an excellent workout in Detroit," said Barea's agent, Richard Katz. "They like him a lot. Detroit could use a guy like Jose Juan to back up Chauncey Billups."

Barea is currently playing in the championship series of the Puerto Rican Pro League (BSN). His team, Santurce, is down 2 games to 0 to Caguas, with Game 3 set for tonight at 8:30.

Barea has played exceptionally well, but Caguas, making its first BSN finals appearance after 37 years of competition, could be a team of destiny.

In the opener on Friday night, Santurce led by six points after the first quarter, by three at halftime and by one entering the fourth. But Caguas rallied to win 90-82.

Despite Santurce's loss, Barea was stellar as usual. He had a game-high 19 points and added 5 assists. He made 9 of 18 shots, including a three-pointer. In the BSN semifinals, Barea averaged 20.2 points and was named MVP.

In the second game on Sunday night, Caguas won 88-79. And although Barea played just 22 minutes, he again led his team in scoring with 17 points. He was incredibly efficient, making 4 of his 6 field goals, including a three-pointer, and hit 6 of 7 free throws.

[metrocard]

Barea Impresses Scouts

Jun 24, 2006



By: Walter Villa




BAREA GUARDS ANDRES RODRIGUEZ.
http://hoop-rap.com/images/newspics/449d4695b94d3.jpg



Even though he was going up against a team of destiny, Jose Juan Barea still impressed NBA scouts who came to Puerto Rico over the past week to watch him play.

With the June 28 NBA Draft just a few days away, scouts wanted to see Barea go up against a higher level of competition than what he saw in Mid-Majors college conferences the past four years.

But what those scouts found out is that Barea has always risen to the challenge and has been a star on every level he has played - high school, college and international.

This postseason, Barea led his pro team, Santurce, to the championship series of the Puerto Rican Pro League (BSN). In fact, Barea was the MVP of Santurce's semifinal series win, averaging 20.2 points.

In the finals, it got tougher for Santurce, which lost 4 games to 1 to Caguas, a team that in 37 years had never won the BSN title until Friday night's historic win.

Barea, though, was stellar as usual, leading his team in scoring in 4 of the 5 games. In the only game that he did not lead in points, he had a game-high 8 assists.

Puerto Rican pros found out what American college players already know - It is almost impossible to stop Barea from getting his points and setting up his teammates.

For the five-game finals series, Barea led Santurce in scoring (14.4) and assists (3.6), while holding his turnovers (2.1) to a minimum.

Barea's numbers might have been even greater had his minutes been more consistent. In three games, he had 30 or more minutes. In two games, he had less than 23 even though he was not in foul trouble.

But the biggest stat to look at to find out about Barea's effectiveness is his shooting percentage, which was 49.2 for the five games. That is exceptional for a guard, and it shows that Barea was driving past players almost at will.

Next stop for Barea is Wednesday's draft, where some smart team will select him and get a true point guard who can pass and score. Barea is a high-character leader who many scouts believe will develop into a 10-year NBA player.


Smh @ PR coaches being hard headed.

[TheRedStorm]

Looks like Barea will be joining GS in the SL.

[coachjon]

i dont think he makes the warriors team. so hopefully he impresses someone else with his summer league play and can land somewhere else but i dont think he will. i see him as an overseas stud.

[wombat6802]

if today is any indicator, it seems like he'll be the primary backup straight up PG (don't give me the Monta Ellis/Will Bynum combo shpiel)

[shaman]

http://www.hoop-rap.com/news/newsview.php?getstory=732

LAS VEGAS - Jose Juan Barea's agent told Hoop-Rap on Thursday that the former Miami Christian High and Northeastern University point guard will be playing for the Dallas Mavericks' summer-league team from Friday until July 19.

Barea will complete play in the Vegas Summer League tonight. He has been a huge success for the Golden State Warriors, who want to sign him to a contract and bring him to training camp in October.

However, until a contract is signed, Barea is free to explore other opportunities, such as the one in Salt Lake City, Utah with the Mavericks, who made it to NBA Finals this past season.

"We still have strong interest in Golden State," said Richard Katz, Barea's agent. "We think Golden State is an ideal fit for Jose Juan. But we also have interest in Dallas. Playing for a great organization such as the Mavericks will give Jose Juan another opportunity to showcase his talents."

After playing for the Mavericks, Barea will fly to Colombia, where he will play for his country as Puerto Rico is gearing up for the World Games in August.

"He will play for pride and country," Katz said, "but it also showcases Jose Juan internationally."

[SaintofKillers]

JJB's playing for Dallas which is perfect since we're looking for a young third-string PG. He seems to be a great passer (another need) but if he can play defense and shoot some, he's definitely a lock.

[shaman]

BTW good game yesterday for Barea.....20 pts, 8 asts

Mavericks won...

[shaman]

Today Barea was the hero at the Central American games for Puerto Rico. Hitting a 3pt with the game tied at 87 with two seconds left. It was the gold medal game.

[wombat6802]

oh man... I don't even think he's underrated anymore. Maybe the NBA is just allergic to him, who knows?

[ecuhus]

Yeah, he's got in-Flutie-enza.

You can knock him 'til the cows come home, but bottom line he gets it done. I thought the Mavs were going to pick him up until the Anthony Johnson trade (aka roster dump 101), now who's knows where he'll wash up. Oh well, he might make more overseas, for the first few years anyway.

[shaman]

http://www.hoop-rap.com/news/newsview.php?getstory=739

That was the Puertorrican "B Squad". Despite that, today it was announced that Barea and Filiberto Rivera didn't made the "A Squad" because team management wanted to go with veteran-but less talented players at PG (Hatton & Dalmau). Rivera was also one of the tournament's best player. He and Barea were the team engine at the tournament.

There're rumors Arroyo has weight on team decisions and a very good friend of Dalmau. Hatton is also very good friends of one of the coaches.

[ecuhus]

That's unfortunate; I think Barea and Arroyo together would be an electric duo.

It's OK, Mighty Mouse; you'll shine soon.

[cjperez]

http://www.hoop-rap.com/news/newsview.php?getstory=739

That was the Puertorrican "B Squad". Despite that, today it was announced that Barea and Filiberto Rivera didn't made the "A Squad" because team management wanted to go with veteran-but less talented players at PG (Hatton & Dalmau). Rivera was also one of the tournament's best player. He and Barea were the team engine at the tournament.

There're rumors Arroyo has weight on team decisions and a very good friend of Dalmau. Hatton is also very good friends of one of the coaches.

"less talented"? Maybe you could say less known, at least in the US, but no way are they less talented. Both Hatton and Dalmau have been MVPs of the PR league something neither Filiberto nor Barea has done and both have already proven they can be stars in proffessional basketball which is something Barea has yet to prove. There is no doubt that Barea and Filiberto have great potential but that does not nake them more talented. Even moreso, Filiberto who probably has less potential than Barea was the only one likely of the two to make the team because he has proven himself against better players and because simply he's better right now.

After watching Barea play in the PR league and in the Centroamericanos there is no doubt in my mind that he simply is not ready yet. He's an incredible showman and can do some incredible stuff on the court but he doesn't have the maturity to run an offense correctly without dominating the ball which specially shows when he has teammates that are better than he is. For example, in the last play of the tournament which everybody is now celebrating and saying how great Barea did, there is no doubt in my mind that that was not the intended play. Barea came off a screen and was doubled leaving PR's best scorer of the tournmante open on the drive which was exactly the same play as the previous posession but even so Barea decided to play hero and was almost traped in the corner. Its plays like that that make me think that he has to learn to be a better team player which is a case very similar to the problems Arroyo faced when he first reached Detroit with Larry Brown.

[shaman]

First, Dalmau or Hatton have not proven anything more than making fools of themselves. Dalmau is backup SG in the Poland League and Hatton plays in Maxico. Don't be so blind. Dalmau even said last week that he didn't want to be part of the team. If there is someone who makes really bad decisions and crazy plays on the floor is that guy. Dalmau is too slow for the point and to short to be SG. He was even cut one time from the NBDL!!!

Second, the play was designed for him. Even the cameraman recorded the coach giving the instruction! Even so, he delivered and took the responsibility of the shot. And thats a thing Dalmau nor Hatton have had the cojones to do. Barea DID passed the ball DID ran plays for his teammates and there were so many times they did NOT finished. Same case with Rivera.

Third, anyone can be the Puertorrican League MVP being at the right situation. In their first season playing coming off from college, both Rivera and Barea led their teams to the league finals. The guy who won this season MVP is currently playing in Mexican League (Wilfredo Pagan).

Maybe your being blind or this is the first time you've seen them play but they went undefeated on the tournament...

3 weeks ago the A squad (including Arroyo) only won the Bronze medal against the same teams. One last thing, Arroyo doesn't even makes an effort to guard and thats what drove Sloan and Brown crazier than playing "yoyo" with the ball.

[shaman]

I would like to know whats your definition of "Proven". Playing in Mexico and Poland?

Barea and Rivera have proved wrong to everyone who taught they weren't ready. Do you think Arroyo wants to be in a situation where he could lose his spot? Thats the point. Dalmau and Hatton will never do that, but Barea and Rivera will put pressure on him. Too many sponsors involved...

[wombat6802]

so what is your point?

[cjperez]

First, Dalmau or Hatton have not proven anything more than making fools of themselves. Dalmau is backup SG in the Poland League and Hatton plays in Maxico. Don't be so blind. Dalmau even said last week that he didn't want to be part of the team. If there is someone who makes really bad decisions and crazy plays on the floor is that guy. Dalmau is too slow for the point and to short to be SG. He was even cut one time from the NBDL!!!
Given that the international game is quite different from the US game I'll forgo commenting on the height or NBDL comment. Dalmau may have been playing backup but even then he played extremely well including a couple of 20 point performances in about 25 min per game. Also he didn't want to be part of the team because of problems with the coaches and monetary concerns. Since the PR league is the only league in common between all of them, it's the one I'll use for comparisson which tells me that both Hatton and Dalmau have averaged more pts than either Barea or Rivera and at least more assists than Barea.

Second, the play was designed for him. Even the cameraman recorded the coach giving the instruction! Even so, he delivered and took the responsibility of the shot. And thats a thing Dalmau nor Hatton have had the cojones to do. Barea DID passed the ball DID ran plays for his teammates and there were so many times they did NOT finished. Same case with Rivera.
Let's see, given that I'm assuming our coach isn't an idiot I can't believe that he wanted Barea to keep the ball after the screen. If you watch the game you'll see that for about the last half of the 4th quarter the point guard was immediately getting doubled team in that screen and roll. Furthermore that exact same play was run by Rivera in the previous possesion and he got doubled the same way and it ended in 2 made free throws by the guy cutting to the basket. Furthermore if his teammates weren't finishing why is it that he wasn't in the top 3 scorers for PR in that game and even more specifically why is it that the guy that was free and rolling to the basket was the leading scorer for the team during the whole tournament and possibly our most clutch free throw shooter.

I should note here that I'm not saying Barea doesn't pass the ball because that can easily be countered by showing the assist numbers. What I'm saying is that Barea doesn't like to make the routine passes. It seems to me as if he feels that he has to create for himself and his team every time he has the ball which can lead to some very pretty plays at times but which diminishes the things his teammates can do.

Third, anyone can be the Puertorrican League MVP being at the right situation. In their first season playing coming off from college, both Rivera and Barea led their teams to the league finals. The guy who won this season MVP is currently playing in Mexican League (Wilfredo Pagan).
This is not the first time either of them has played on the legue and neither of them can be considered to have lead their team. Santurce is the Yankees of the PR league and had so much talent that Barea wasn't even starting for a while and Caguas' success is more because of their two foreign players who carried the team all season long.

Maybe your being blind or this is the first time you've seen them play but they went undefeated on the tournament...
A tournament which no team really cares about all that much and in which, traditionally, Countries send their B teams unless they're not qualified to the big tournaments that follow.

3 weeks ago the A squad (including Arroyo) only won the Bronze medal against the same teams. One last thing, Arroyo doesn't even makes an effort to guard and thats what drove Sloan and Brown crazier than playing "yoyo" with the ball.
It wasn't against the same teams, Jamaica and the Virgin Islands did not participate in this tournament. And that A squad was an A squad deprived of Big men and without that much practice time. They underperformed greatly but that does not make them worse than this B team and in fact would probably beat the B team easily right now.

Arryo's defense has been the bane of all his coaches but larry brown actually got on him quite hard for not being able t run astrict offense which to some point also lost hime the starting job in Utah. Both Arroyo and Barea are very imaginative players that prefer to just feel their way through the possesion but have trouble with more strict offensive systems.

I would like to know whats your definition of "Proven". Playing in Mexico and Poland?

Barea and Rivera have proved wrong to everyone who taught they weren't ready. Do you think Arroyo wants to be in a situation where he could lose his spot? Thats the point. Dalmau and Hatton will never do that, but Barea and Rivera will put pressure on him. Too many sponsors involved...
Compare Riverea's numbers in Germany to those of Dalmau in Poland and you'll notice their not as good. Barea only briefly played in the PR league and before that in NCAA which was a low level of competition. Even today the newspapers reported that the reason the head coach didn't chose them was because they didn't have any experience at the adult level. Their time will come.

To say that Rivera and Barea can challenge Arroyo for the satring PG position right now is just short of ridiculous. Arroyo has more chemistry with the team and is much more talented individually. Down the road I would expect both of them to challenge him but I don't expect that to happen till the next olympic cycle where I would hope they become the #1 and #2 pgs of the team.

[shaman]

Dalmau has never been to a Puertorrican League Final....
A couple 25 pt performances? Did they won? Go look. What was his average substracting those 2 or 3 performances? He wasn't even a PG. More importantly this guy quitted two weeks ago, made a show about his minutes and then was welcomed back to the team. Tell me about desire..

Problems with the coach? Money? Agent excuses.More asissts? Pts? Barea and Rivera did not played full time during the regular season due to adjusting to systems. Any team in Puerto Rico would take those two over anyone in the league to run their team. Dalmau has never ever produced in international competition coming off the bench or playing regular.

I have seen the final minutes 5 times and 3 team coaches said that was the play. The order was "Do your thing". If the leading scorer is so great why the play wasn't run for him? He wasn't he the leading scorer because he kept pushing the ball. I'm laughing at your comments because you're pointing mistakes like he is the only guy who makes them. Dalmau and Hatton do those mistakes every two minutes.

You're very wrong, they did led their teams to the final. Just make a comparison on how more efective those team got when they arrived. Ask the coaches, media, anyone in that area. Who was the finals MVP?

Was not the same competition because if Jamaica and Virgin Islands did not participated? Look at the mistakes by those who you're defending. Put the same Centrobasket team against this B squad. IMO B squad wins. Why? More chemistry, more hunger, more heart. That my friend is something we'll never know.

I'lll ask you... Don't you think they at least deserved the chance to prove themselves over the next weeks in those same tune-up games? Whereareas other teams haven't cut to 12 players?

My point is POLITICS, FEAR of two young players who have always prove to be stars.

[wombat6802]

Hatton and Dalmau are a freaking joke. Point to the numbers all you want. I watched the game, and though I'm a US fan, I wanted big things out of this Puerto Rico team. In the game last night, Hatton and Dalmau did jack squat to help their team. In fact, the whole Puerto Rican team bombed it. 6 assists??? When did World basketball turn into a high school all-star game. This is why you need a guy like Barea. He can make plays. Even Arroyo is too concentrated on scoring to make a serious difference. I'm so disappointed in this move, it is unbelievable. Barea has the speed of Ayuso and the court vision of Arroyo, and though he lacks the height, I think that it's safe to say that his scoring ability is on par with Arroyo. Rivera is good, but Barea is a legitimate star who could do for the Puerto Ricans what Chris Paul did for Americans. What a joke. What a sad sad joke.

Fear, politics, whatever, puerto rico is a lot weaker because of it... Why does everyone hate Barea? What else does he have to prove? Will he ever be given the chance?

End rant.

[cjperez]

I'lll ask you... Don't you think they at least deserved the chance to prove themselves over the next weeks in those same tune-up games? Whereareas other teams haven't cut to 12 players?
Yeah they did deserve the chance. Even with that I doubt either would have made the team though Dalamu is making me look bad, he played horribly yesterday. Personally, I would prefer a big man or a swingman instead though because that third pg is going to be useless anyways with Arroyo gobbling up the minutes. That in itself is the other advantage Dalmau has as the 3rd pg, he cn play either guard spot which neither Barea or Rivera can do.

My point is POLITICS, FEAR of two young players who have always prove to be stars.
This I disagree unless you mean policy instead of politics. Quite simply the coaching staff went with the players they know and with the players that have produced throught the year. Dalmau did better Rivera in Europe and Barea mainly played in the NCAA where the level of competition is suspect. I expect that by the time the olympics roll around things will be different as both players will be more seasoned specially if Dalmau keeps playing like he did last night.

[Jonathan]

I have to agree with these guys, but for different reasons. Puerto Rico isn't going anywhere in this tournament, so why not at least get Barea some experience at the WC level to prepare him for the olympics. With the way Arroyo was playing yesterday, he is seriously better off at the 2. Barea could have really contributed. If he was good enough to put up a trible double on Chris Paul's head just two summers ago, he is good enough to at least be the 12th man on an awful Puerto Rican squad. I feel sorry for the kid, he is like the Rodney Dangerfield of basketball. No freaking respect.

He is going into camp with the Warriors by the way.

[wombat6802]

Jon, have you heard of a conspiracy or something to explain this? There has to be some reason. Does he have a condition of physical problem? Is he currently being exiled from Puerto Rico? Is he wanted in Japan?

For anybody who has never seen him play, I strongly recommend finding a tape of him, especially if you're going to look at his bashing in the last year without knowing his game...

It's a crime.

[Jonathan]

I really dont know wtf is going on, and how everyone can be so blind to what is incredibly obvious to people like me and you. Either we are WAAAY off, or people just haven't really seen him, or they are just being very very stupid.

[shaman]

Just in...

This is not confirmed but there is a strong rumor that today Barea signed a deal with the Mavericks. Terms unknown.

I repeat, this is not confirmed.

[Deathrow]

where did you hear that rumor if there a link or something?

[shaman]

This is from a radio show in Barea's hometown "Mayaguez". His father was the one interviewed. This was posted in the Puertorrican League forum. The source is reliable but i can't guarantee is true.

[Deathrow]

gracias por la info!
cual es el foro de puerto rico?

[shaman]

www.bsnpr.com

tienes que registrarte

[shaman]

http://www.primerahora.com/noticia.asp?guid=02AC3D31481D46DFB6CFC6958AAFC9A6

[metrocard]

I have to agree with these guys, but for different reasons. Puerto Rico isn't going anywhere in this tournament, so why not at least get Barea some experience at the WC level to prepare him for the olympics. With the way Arroyo was playing yesterday, he is seriously better off at the 2. Barea could have really contributed. If he was good enough to put up a trible double on Chris Paul's head just two summers ago, he is good enough to at least be the 12th man on an awful Puerto Rican squad. I feel sorry for the kid, he is like the Rodney Dangerfield of basketball. No freaking respect.

He is going into camp with the Warriors by the way.

I agree, we need Barea. all our PG's except Arroyo can't handle the ball well or run the offense.

Arroyo is one of the best FIBA PG's in the world, he does everything for PR, but we need back up. Barea is dominant in FIBA competition, I'm kinda upset they don't invite guys like Barea, Diaz, and Sanchez. We need offense badly. I'm tired of these veterans, we go no where with them.

We're not a bad team, we're decent. I believe we can finish at 6 again with some miracle wins.


CJPerez...you're a brainwashed fool.

Dalmau is awful, he's a turnover machine. He's an oversized PG who's too slow to play SG and can't run an offense. His defense is terrible.

Hatton isn't bad, but he isn't good at anything. He's a medicore player and a 3rd string back up PG.

Barea was great in the BSN Finals, did you miss it? He went up against one of the best defensive PG's in the world Andres Rodriguez and helped his team greatly.

What ever league Barea goes, he's extremely productive, FIBA, BSNPR, Centrobasket, NCAA, Summerleague, Portsmouth, whatever man.

Barea accually has passion to play basketball, unlike most of our Puerto Rican players, he's willing to win instead of do And1 moves on the court.

Thats all Puerto Rico has right now, And1 basketball players, we can't win like that. We need a basketball wizard like Barea to come off the bench and dominat. Our bench is weak man I can't believe you honestly think Dalmau and Hatton can help this team.


The only productive guards are on this team are Arroyo, who's one of the most productive FIBA guards in the world, Ayuso who's medicore and Apodaca who I feel is extremely underrated and deserves a spot in the NBA.

Arroyo/Barea
Ayuso/Apodaca


Thats how it should be or

Arroyo/Barea
Ayuso/Diaz
Galindo/Lee/Sanchez

lol...whatever happend to Galindo? I thought he was going to do big things in Kansas.

We need to start getting our youth involved and get them international experience. We must be prepared for 2010 when it really matters.


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Two young PG's of Puerto Rico ....Andres Rodriguez and Jose Juan Barea...they don't belong on the fucking bench!!! Non sense

[mavs128]

JJB has been invited to the Mavericks training camp, where he will compete with Darius Washington, Ndudi Ebi, and Pete Caroll for our final roster spot. No garunteed deal for Jose.

[coachjon]

i think the last roster spot will go to ndudi ebi they need more help at SF/PF than they do any other position. he is still young and when given minutes has proven he can perform at the nba level.

[wombat6802]

not only did they just trade a ton of swingmen, forward types, but especially given the mavs move with Diop last year, Ebi seems a better bet. They still have a lot of veteren talent that wants to win and play with passion that can work with him. In addition, the dedication given to players by Mark Cuban will help inspire Ebi, and maybe he can become a better player because of it. I love Barea. He is my favorite non-NBA player, but I can't see the Mavs selecting him when they already have Harris, Johnson, and Terry in the rotation... I do hope he gets a chance elsewhere though.

[cjperez]

I agree, we need Barea. all our PG's except Arroyo can't handle the ball well or run the offense.

Arroyo is one of the best FIBA PG's in the world, he does everything for PR, but we need back up. Barea is dominant in FIBA competition, I'm kinda upset they don't invite guys like Barea, Diaz, and Sanchez. We need offense badly. I'm tired of these veterans, we go no where with them.

We're not a bad team, we're decent. I believe we can finish at 6 again with some miracle wins.


CJPerez...you're a brainwashed fool.

Dalmau is awful, he's a turnover machine. He's an oversized PG who's too slow to play SG and can't run an offense. His defense is terrible.

Hatton isn't bad, but he isn't good at anything. He's a medicore player and a 3rd string back up PG.

Barea was great in the BSN Finals, did you miss it? He went up against one of the best defensive PG's in the world Andres Rodriguez and helped his team greatly.

What ever league Barea goes, he's extremely productive, FIBA, BSNPR, Centrobasket, NCAA, Summerleague, Portsmouth, whatever man.

Barea accually has passion to play basketball, unlike most of our Puerto Rican players, he's willing to win instead of do And1 moves on the court.

Thats all Puerto Rico has right now, And1 basketball players, we can't win like that. We need a basketball wizard like Barea to come off the bench and dominat. Our bench is weak man I can't believe you honestly think Dalmau and Hatton can help this team.


The only productive guards are on this team are Arroyo, who's one of the most productive FIBA guards in the world, Ayuso who's medicore and Apodaca who I feel is extremely underrated and deserves a spot in the NBA.

Arroyo/Barea
Ayuso/Apodaca


Thats how it should be or

Arroyo/Barea
Ayuso/Diaz
Galindo/Lee/Sanchez

lol...whatever happend to Galindo? I thought he was going to do big things in Kansas.

We need to start getting our youth involved and get them international experience. We must be prepared for 2010 when it really matters.


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Two young PG's of Puerto Rico ....Andres Rodriguez and Jose Juan Barea...they don't belong on the fucking bench!!! Non sense
You can call me whatever you want but what I reaaly am is a realist. Julio Toro has never liked "unproven" players so a player like Barea who has limited experience playing high level basketball had very little chance of making the team. My guess is that with Julio retiring after the World Championships things will change but don't expect too much change. I sincerely doubt Sanchez and Diaz will get a chance immediately becuase Sanchez has basically dissapeared from the local eye and there was some sort of problem with Diaz previously. The one young guy I think the team should look at as well is Ivan Lopez, 6'10" pf that can compliment both of our centers by bringing a big body inside that cares about rebounding and not scoring.

No doubt there has to be a youth movement right now on the team but the reason Toro has designed the team this way while they might not be the most logical do have some merit. Hatton while possibly not being the best talent wise does have more experience running the team the way Toro wants and Dalmau is brought on more as a shooter but the more I see of him lately the more I think that both he and Ayuso don't need to be driving. Also the height issue is inconsequential given that internationally sg's are much more shorter or else Ayuso would not be playing sg as he's only like 6'1", 6'2".

A couple other random comments:
1. Andres Rodrigues may be good defensively but he's in no way one of the best of the world.
2. Sanchez irritates the hell out of me, there's no way a guy his size should be worrying about making thress instead of working on his strength and inside game. As a PF with a good outside shot he would be invaluable to most teams but right now he's just a Nowitzki wannabe and even Nowitzki has had to learn how to play inside.

[metrocard]

Barea is unproven? how?

http://hoop-rap.com/images/newspics/44cd81427a6bb.jpg
http://hoop-rap.com/images/newspics/44ce1a117b61a.jpg


Barea has won us many gold and silver medals, and he has lead our youth to productive performances in FIBA tournaments.

Roberto Hatton has more experience? So I guess sitting on the bench and playing 10-15 minutes a game not doing anything is experience? Roberto Hatton may know the offense, but who said Barea can't learn the offense quicker than Hatton? Barea's main strenghts are finding out his team weaknesses and strengths, and he makes his players better. Hatton and Dalmau cannot do this, they are combo score first guards. Their experience is irrevelant. Toro is holding Puerto Rico back from letting its Youth produce.

Peter John Ramos had no experience before 2004, except in BSN, and he got invited to the FIBA squad. This experience thing means nothing, has it got us any medals in the past years? No.

Jose Juan Barea did it again, nailing a three-pointer with one second left in the game to lead Puerto Rico to a 90-87 win over Panama on Sunday.

Barea is clutch and is a leader. Arroyo can't be the leader all the team, we need a back up PG. Hatton is a decent player, and Dalmau is garbage. Rivera is a great defender, but I'd take Barea over him any day.

Diaz and Toro need to get things settled, Diaz can give us the quickest back court in Japan off the bench.

Sanchez, like I said has alot of potential. If you watched him lately, he does rebound a bit, offensive rebounding was his thing in Idaho and Summerleague. Ricky Sanchez averaged 2.3 offensive rebounds in 20 minutes per game. He's obviously getting more physical with his game. Sanchez is what he is. He's an agile offensive wing player who can beat his man to the drive, score to the basket or shoot. He's 3pt shooting is very good, lets not act like ITS NOTHING, we could definately use 3pt shooting from the 3 and 4 position, its a plus always to spread out the floor.

I like Ivan Lopez also, he's a young banger we could use for a size advangtage.



This is the 12 guys I would choose

C - 4 PJ Ramos
PF - 5 Angelo Reyes
PG - 6 Jose Juan Barea
PG - 7 Carlos Arroyo
SG/SF - 8 Rick Apodaca
SG- 10 Larry Ayuso
PF/C - 11 Ivan Lopez
PG - 12 Filiberto Rivera
G - 13 Guillermo Diaz
SF - 14 Carmelo Lee
C - 15 Daniel Santiago

and Ricky Sanchez


PG - Arroyo/Barea/Rivera
SG - Ayuso/Diaz
SF - Apodaca/Lee/Sanchez
PF - Lopez/Reyes
C - Santiago/Ramos

Maybe even Josue Soto, starting PG at Florida State...he kicked ass with the USA in germany.


Man...all I'm saying we must start the foundation now, its not like we're going to win Gold with the roster we got now, so why not polish our prospects and get them ready for 2010?

[wombat6802]

I'll continue to agree with you on Rivera, though his snubbing looks even more bizarre after watching the pitiful guard play they exhibited during the USA contest. They need depth and the guys they have at the 1 and 2 right now just aren't cutting it.

[wombat6802]

What else does Jose have to do to get a real chance in the league... (referencing the latest edition of inside the D-League)

It's kind of crazy, especially considering the mediocre lead guard play of Miami, Memphis, Atlanta, and Milwaukee (a solid backup, assuming Mo Williams continues to have his career year).

[coachjon]

jose has been tearing up the d-league but a lot of players have torn up european leagues and minor leagues and not done anything in the NBA. you are right though he hasn't really gotten a chance in the league yet with the mavs he only got in 12 times and the most minutes he got was 6 so hardly enough to prove himself. then again if he would have outplayed anthony johnson in training camp or practices maybe he could have earned some of his time.

[metrocard]

Barea has done well as a Maverick so far in little minutes. Glad to see him have a place in the NBA, especially on the best team in the NBA...great start for him... could be a potential back up if they ever deal Harris.

[coachjon]

nice to see an old face back metro as you and wombat know from last summer i was never suprised jose never got drafted and never thought he would, but i agree with you with some time i think he could develop into a solid 8th or 9th man in the league. i do however think it will take him a few years to develop into that role i would say he could be an end of the bench rotation guy barely playing for up to his third year in the league with that being is year to break into the rotation. With that being said hopefully he shows people enough to either keep on with the Mavs or get picked up by someone else since his contract is up after this year. He hasn't gotten enough burn in the NBA to prove he isworthy of another contract. His time int he D-League I mean he put up outstanding numbers but how much can you warrant off those because there is no way in the league he would put up numbers even close as those, but they should warrant enough to at least get a summer league invite and training camp invite by a team again and put himself in a postion to work himself onto a team. So, as I am not as completely sold on him as you two always have been I am more sold on him being a contributor in the NBA than I was last summer.

[metrocard]

nice to see an old face back metro as you and wombat know from last summer i was never suprised jose never got drafted and never thought he would, but i agree with you with some time i think he could develop into a solid 8th or 9th man in the league. i do however think it will take him a few years to develop into that role i would say he could be an end of the bench rotation guy barely playing for up to his third year in the league with that being is year to break into the rotation. With that being said hopefully he shows people enough to either keep on with the Mavs or get picked up by someone else since his contract is up after this year. He hasn't gotten enough burn in the NBA to prove he isworthy of another contract. His time int he D-League I mean he put up outstanding numbers but how much can you warrant off those because there is no way in the league he would put up numbers even close as those, but they should warrant enough to at least get a summer league invite and training camp invite by a team again and put himself in a postion to work himself onto a team. So, as I am not as completely sold on him as you two always have been I am more sold on him being a contributor in the NBA than I was last summer.

Avery Johnson is very high on Barea accually, Barea has proven himself in every jersey he has rocked, when he's given big minutes. We could go from High School, FIBA, NCAA, CentroAmerican basketball, BSNPR, NBDL, bottom line is, Barea has proven himself in those leagues. Even in limited minutes you can see Barea is determined to make something happend for his teammates or himself.

Barea isn't ready for bench minutes on a championship type team like Dallas now, but theres time and future and Barea can control those two things. He's a hard worker, and dedicated. No one has stopped him from going this far. He definately deserves to be in the NBA, I just hope he stays healthy.



Article on Barea
http://hoop-rap.com/news/newsview.php?getstory=987

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Barea Featured On ESPN

Mar 26, 2007



By: Walter Villa



BAREA WITH MAVS TEAMMATE DIRK NOWITZKI.



BAREA AFTER LEADING PUERTO RICO TO THE GOLD MEDAL.



Dallas Mavericks rookie Jose Juan Barea, the star of the Miami Tropics program, is currently being featured on the ESPN Deportes website.

The five-minute feature - which was called "A Puerto Rican With Courage" - begins with clips of Barea talking to Mavs star Dirk Nowitzki at practice. Barea, who is 5-11, discusses his small (by NBA standards) stature.

"People always said I was too small," said Barea, who won a state prep title in 2002 at Miami Christian and had a great, four-year college career at Northeastern. "But I never let it bother me. I have just gone forward with the support of my family.

"Now the people who said I was too small can't say much because I'm here (in the NBA). I know I'm small, but I am also fast and I'm a better dribbler than the others."

The narrator of the clip said that what Barea lacks in size, he makes up for in heart. The narrator also talks about how Barea played tennis and volleyball as a youth but that basketball was his true love.

The clip shows Barea making the gold-meal-winning shot for Puerto Rico at the 2006 CentroAmericano Games.

"The coach called a timeout and said he wanted to run a play for me," Barea said of the game-winning shot. "He wanted a pick and roll with about 6 seconds left and for me to do what I can.

"When I let go of the jumper, I knew it was going in. And when it did, we all went crazy."

The video shows the Puerto Rican team celebrating wildly with Barea at the center of the excitement.

"Making that basket," Barea said, "gave me the confidence to do what I am doing now."

What he is doing now is playing on the team that is favored to win the NBA title this season.

But Barea's parents, Jaime and Marta, said the CentroAmerican Games was an event they will never forget.

"You could see the joy in his eyes," Jaime said of his son's reaction to winning the gold for Puerto Rico. "First of all, the security he had with the ball in his hands. You knew he would be the one to take the shot.

"But after he made the shot, you could see the joy, the way his eyes shined. It was one of the greatest moments of his life."

Added Marta: "He has given us a lot of moments of joy. But the CentroAmerican Games were something special."

Jaime and Marta said that the summer was a tense one. Besides the pressure of playing for his native country, Barea knew he would be a longshot to make the loaded Mavs roster.

"It was a very long summer," Barea said. "We had training camp and then the preseason, which was 8 games. I played a lot.

"There were four of us competing for the final roster spot. One week, they cut one guy. Then the next week, they cut another. And then there were just two of us competing until I showed up one day and there was no one left but me."

Barea's journey to the NBA was not complete. In midseason, he was sent to the NBA Development to get more experience. Barea did not waste his time there, however. He averaged over 27 points per game with 2 outings of over 40 points. In less than two weeks, he was returned to Dallas and the NBA.

"Boy, JJ, for him to come into our league without being drafted - he is a fiesty little fella," Mavs Coach Avery Johnson said. "He is a good penetrator. He can make shots. And he really knows how to quarterback a team. That's rare to have a true point guard, and that's what he is."

Johnson said he sees a lot of himself in Barea because of his lack of great size and the fact that both were ignored in the NBA Draft.

Jaime said that while many doubted his son, there was one person who always believed - Jose Juan Barea himself.

"If there is somebody who knows what he has to do, it is him," Jaime said. "There were a lot of doubters when it came to the NBA, whether it had to do with his size or him coming from Puerto Rico. But if there was someone who was sure he had the qualities, ability and desire to be in the NBA, it was him.."

Barea had the final word in the piece.

"I'm young - only 22 years old," Barea said. "I am going to work hard, and however far I can get, that is where I am going to go. I am expecting a lot of good things."

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Barea's Glorious Homecoming

Mar 24, 2007



By: Walter Villa



BAREA SCORES ON THE CELTICS.



The crowd in Boston was singing his name, and rookie point guard Jose Juan Barea responded by scoring 5 points in a thrilling 7 minutes late Friday night.

Barea's effort contributed to an easy, 109-95 victory over the host Boston Celtics.

Given that they have the NBA's best record at 57-11, the Mavericks' win over the lowly Celtics was expected. Boston dropped to 20-49, the worst record in the Eastern Conference and second-worst in the league.

With victory assured fairly early, the real drama surrounded Barea. Mavs Coach Avery Johnson badly wanted to insert the rookie in to this game because he is a hero in Boston due to his record-setting career at Northeastern University.

“We are getting paid to win games and play our guys," Johnson said. "But boy, I was hoping at some point, even if it was for only one second, that I could get Barea in. I thought about it in the first half, but it was a little too early.”

For much of the fourth quarter, a rather large Barea rooting section - mostly folks from Northeastern who came wearing T-shirts with JJB's picture - chanted their hero's name, pleading with Johnson to put him in the game.

Finally, with 6:41 left in the game and the Mavs comfortably ahead 98-75, Johnson yelled for "JJ." And Barea responded right away, making 2 of 4 shots from the field and 1 of 1 from the line. One of his highlights was a drive that resulted in a three-point play with 3:35 left.

With that basket, Barea's fans started singing: "Jo-se, ... Jose, Jose, Jose, .... Jo-se, ... Jo-se" in much the way soccer fans sing the "Ole" anthem.

Barea's mentor and former high school coach, Miami Tropics founder Art "Pilin" Alvarez, talked to his star pupil after the game.

"He said it was an incredible feeling to hear those fans," Alvarez said. "Can you imagine? This was on the homecourt of the Celtics, one of the most famous franchises in the world. And yet the Boston fans were singing for an opponent - this little backup from Puerto Rico.

"He is only a rookie, but Jose Juan is already making some memories that will last a lifetime. I get goosebumps just thinking about it."

[wombat6802]

I'm with you. It's just about turning people on these boards into believers... I don't know who else he has to prove himself to... Just watch what happens when Dallas finally gets rid of JET and he starts getting minutes at the point. He's probably a better fit anyhow AND he can play point guard. I think I've said everything about him that is possible, but I will just further reiterate that Barea is one of the best point guards of his generation and will show people his true ability in the coming year even though his path has been harder than most.

[metrocard]

I'm with you. It's just about turning people on these boards into believers... I don't know who else he has to prove himself to... Just watch what happens when Dallas finally gets rid of JET and he starts getting minutes at the point. He's probably a better fit anyhow AND he can play point guard. I think I've said everything about him that is possible, but I will just further reiterate that Barea is one of the best point guards of his generation and will show people his true ability in the coming year even though his path has been harder than most.

Against Utah, an elite playoff team

24 minutes
16 points
6-15FG
2-4 3pt
2-2 FT
2 rebs
1 assist
1 TO

before that he had
23 mins
13 points
4-9 FG
2-4 3pt
3-3 FT
2 offensive boards
3 total
4 assist
1 steal



Not bad production from a back up, this is the first team Barea has ever got twenty minutes in a NBA game, and once again he proves the doubters wrong. Theres no question he can produce in ANY league, he wants. Its up to him. Barea has 3 more games to produce some more before the Mavs head to the playoffs. I'm really proud of this kid, really good story. I hope the best for him in the playoffs.

[metrocard]

He's baaaaack

I really dont know wtf is going on, and how everyone can be so blind to what is incredibly obvious to people like me and you. Either we are WAAAY off, or people just haven't really seen him, or they are just being very very stupid.

Ahaha, good. I hope they're still not blind.

[sirfreshness]

Does Dallas have him locked into a guaranteed contract?

[Hitster]

I think he is under contract but details of it aren't on hoopshype but he is listed as part of the roster on the Maverick's official site so he must be under contract I'd guess.

[sirfreshness]

I think he is under contract but details of it aren't on hoopshype but he is listed as part of the roster on the Maverick's official site so he must be under contract I'd guess.

I thought he was, but I cant find any details of him having a guaranteed contract either.

[wombat6802]

I'm pretty sure he's got another year left on the Mav's payroll. But he could definitely be the second point guard on the roster if they decided to go small and run something like this:

PG: Harris/Barea
SG: Terry
SF: Howard
PF: Dirk
C: Diop/Damp

[metrocard]

He's now starting for Dallas...had 14 points in 8 minutes in the previous game...has 14 points and 2 assist again as a starter into the 2nd quarter.


Damn, his doubters aren't looking too good.

[wombat6802]

You didn't see what he did tonight???

25 pts (9/11, 4/4), 5 assists

If this isn't validation, I don't know what is... Metrocard, we're finally rewarded for all the disrespect we've taken on these boards because of Barea.

[ScoutingGuru]

http://scoutingthenba.com
13.
Jose Juan Barea
22.0
Northeastern
Had him listed as high as the 13th pick overall in the 2006 draftable class. It did note his senior year he could slip to as low as 32nd overall.

Going into that 2006 projected season he was rated as the 15th best player in the entire country.

Still fun to see these things play out nicely, especially the fact there is very little human interface with the picks.

[coachjon]

lol lets wait for some consistency metro and wombat. he is only the starter because harris got injured and they want terry to give them some punch off the bench this year. i mean he has gotten 4 min (scrub time), 9 min (scrub time) and starters minutes not very consistent yet. he did look very good though against sacramento i will give him that.

[metrocard]

Indeed brother. We saw his abilities years ago, now only time will tell how affective he can be as an NBA player.

Heres what people are saying about JJ


JJ Barea is a flat out baller he been ballin outta control for years this is nothing new no surprise to me...this Mavs team is scary from Bass to Barea how the Mavs continue to develop these Diop type players...amazes me Barea was the A.I. of D-League...kid is > Buike in summer league and D-League play that tells you a lot about this kid...droppin back to back 40 pts game in the D-League grant it the D-League but the he got his jersey retired in the D-League lol...boy is a baller
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He seems to be a real steal for Dallas. Seems like he is way ahead of most point guards in his stage of his career. Very smart and alert on the court, plays with great control, and has good range. Dash was pretty good about his poor man's Steve Nash comparison, especially in the way he is crafty around the basket. I hope they don't get rid of him, cause I think he has a legitimate shot at being the true PG Dallas needs.

Barea has the court vision of Nash but is a bit short. He does play scrappy defense for someone his height and obviously he makes up for it on offense. He just weaves his way in among the trees and scores close in to the goal over taller players or he hits a 3 whatever he wants and with his assists he will kill you to. This is our 3rd string PG guys who likely forces Terry to a 6th man role playing the 2 in his minutes. Harris has improved this year as well but Barea is fast becoming the favorite of the fans. I seriously doubt Cubes trades JJ as he likely improves over what he is now. The teams depth compared to last year is off the charts and we really are not interested in getting Kobe any more.

[quote]Barea has natural PG instincts that Harris doesn't have.

That was pretty obvious last night when JJ ran the team and Avery didn't have to coach the team every minute of the game.

Barea and Bass have created many options for this team which could make the TDL very interesting for the Mavs this season.[/img]



Barea is the real deal, all the doubters have been silenced.

[mavs128]

unfortunately for JJB, he'll never be anything more than a backup in the NBA, simply because his defense is as atrocious as it is. To small, with short arms, not quick enough defensively, he gets abused out there. If he can continue to hit the 3 then his offense will be good enough to stick in the NBA for a long time, but never as more than a backup.

[nextstar1019]

that is true, but he can get it done offensively and definitely has the chance to stick around a while in the league

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[Hitster]

When Josh Howard was out, the Stack had to start so Terry was used as an impact 6th man. Also Coach Johnson has decided to follow the Spurs route with Finley starting and Ginobli being a psuedo 6th man ( a starter quality guy at their peak who is doing a specialist role to great effect) this only works when you have a rock solid guy with a good basketball IQ who can start in their place i.e Finley and now Jones. When Harris returns this will obvious effect JJB's minutes but suddenly the Mavs seem to have got nice depth with Jones and Juwan Howard coming in and especially so when Dampier gets fit, a starting 5 of say Harris, Jones, Josh Howard, Nowitzki, Diop with a bench of say Terry, Stackhouse, Juwan Howard, JJB and Dampier gives them legitimate 10 man depth as well as two explosive bench options and veteran scoring from the bench. With Diop actually scoring a few points this year then the whole team looks like good scoring options rather than Dirk and say Josh having to carry the weight.

[metrocard]

unfortunately for JJB, he'll never be anything more than a backup in the NBA, simply because his defense is as atrocious as it is. To small, with short arms, not quick enough defensively, he gets abused out there. If he can continue to hit the 3 then his offense will be good enough to stick in the NBA for a long time, but never as more than a backup.

Wrong.

Barea is alert 24/7 on defense and puts more energy into defense than his offense. He's not gifted physically, but the effort is there. His defense isn't going to keep him from making moves and taking another step on the ladder. It didn't stop him from making NBA and it isn't going to stop him from reaching the next level. Plus how many really good defenders are there at his position? Probably 15-20 at most. Barea ignites the offense is as good as anyone and will be in the NBA for a long time. Damn, some fake Mavericks fan you are.