Official Thread: Ronnie Brewer

[admin]

Ronnie Brewer, PG/SG
20 years old 6'7" 200 lbs.
Arkansas, Junior

Check out the complete profile at: Full Profile (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=64)

[Teabag]

going by the "full profile" and the weaknesses section regarding his defence .... I've seen him a few times this year and think his man defence is well above average .... he was great on Hassan Adams earlier in the year ..... he has the Bogut syndrom right now, plays on an average team and is the only real threat and it could hurt his stock (it didn't hurt Boguts becasue 7 footers with skill don't come along all the time) ..... if Brewer played on Duke or UConn he'd be mentioned with Aldridge and Morrison .... I really would love this guy on my team
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[Jonathan]

You are right, that definitely needs to be updated. I wrote that too long ago and was probably wrong back then...but now that really looks stupid.

[Nikeforged_69]

I haven't had a change to watch this guy play. From what i've heard and read is that he could be an excellent guard. I am a little concerned about his shooting. But hey, the matrix gets it done right? I HAVE TO WATCH HIM PLAY. Hopefully i'll get a chance during march madness. Till then i'll keep my opinion on him to being a solid player.

[Jonathan]

You should try to watch him now, because his team is anything but a lock to make the tournament. I think they are on ESPN next week.

[Hype]

I've seen him play once. He has an awkward shooting form but there's other guys in the NBA (Marion, Prince) who have awkward mechanics but it works for them.

[doubledown11]

Found out recently that Yahoo Sports carries entire broadcasts of SEC college bball games and it's free.

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/collegebroadcast/teams/jps

Too bad the SEC is a.s.s. this year but you can watch the Florida sophomores, TT from LSU and Brewer in these video streams.

Just note that during commercial breaks they show a continous still shot for the duration of the break. don't worry, the action will eventually restart after 1-2 minutes.

I'm not completely sold on Brewer. Living in Toronto I'm focussing on potential 5's (Sheldon Williams and Tiago Splitter) and swingmen (Rudy Gay, Carney and Brewer) who may be available when the raptors draft.
Right now i'm watching UConn play Syracuse and my impression of Gay has changed. I would love for the raptors to get their hands on him. Unfortunately, he may end up leapfrogging back into the top 1-2 and unless lady luck favors the raptors in the lottery draw raptors might not get the chance to take him.

[jonathan watters]

Boy, did Brewer play a game tonight. Quiet most of the night, but almost single-handedly brought them back against LSU. His 3-pointer right after the Tyrus Thomas alleyoop dunk (you will be seeing highlights of that one for years) followed by a layin made it a game, and he made the go-ahead free throws with under a minute to play. It is too bad for him that Arkansas wasted a heroic effort. Every time I see Brewer, I wonder how that oddball shot of his goes in!

[admin]

Ronnie Brewer, PG/SG
20 years old 6'7" 200 lbs.
Arkansas, Junior

Check out the complete profile at: Full Profile (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=64)

[Jonathan]

When he is playing the point he's at his best. I only saw the last 5 minutes or so, but it seemed like he had the ball in his hands an awful lot more than I had seen in the past this season. Those two little shooting guards they play at the point are not only incapable of running an offense and getting their best players involved (including the big guys), they also seem to be either selfish or jealous of their teammates' success or both.

Arkansas is almost definitely going to play in the NIT unfortunately.

[Jonathan]

annoying problem of empty threads has been officialy fixed for now. bumping all old threads to the top now.

[Teabag]

Boy, did Brewer play a game tonight. Quiet most of the night, but almost single-handedly brought them back against LSU. His 3-pointer right after the Tyrus Thomas alleyoop dunk (you will be seeing highlights of that one for years) followed by a layin made it a game, and he made the go-ahead free throws with under a minute to play. It is too bad for him that Arkansas wasted a heroic effort. Every time I see Brewer, I wonder how that oddball shot of his goes in!

I think the same thing with Marion and him ..... I'm a Raps fan and him playing for Akansas could be the best thing to happen for us ..... he won't get any of the hype UNC, Duke, Uconn players get and his stock wont be as high plus that shot so he will slip to 5-10 where we should be at the worst/best .... I'm higher on Morrison but don't think he'll be availabe and Brewer is what we need .... great O and D
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[lunarblues]

he needs to be the hawks point guard.

"Joe Johnson Jr."

look at their stats in college. awfully similar

[Qman]

Hmm Brewer will probably move up in a lot of peoples minds.

[Social Lubrication]

Brewer is my number one prospect for the Raptors right now. I just watched the Arkansas/Tennesse game and I was really impressed by the way he dominated the game from the PG position in the last 5 minutes, rallying his team from a double-digit deficit. I just hope he pulls his stock up a little bit so we can justify taking him in the 4-7 range.

By the way, in Brewer's profile, the outlook section seems to be incomplete. There's a second pargraph, but it trails off after a couple of words.

[Force]

Considering only 1-3 is in cement before the individual workout and Chicago, Brewer can go from early to late lottery.

My personal number one guard, followed by Rajon Rondo.

[The Toilet]

I'm going to get flamed for this but in some ways he's alot like lebron james when he came out..of course Lebron has improved dramatically since then.

[Force]

Lebron was a better scorer, playmaker. Elite NBA athletism and far more advance in skills for his age.

Brewer has more experience coming out as a rookie and probably far better lateral quickness.

Similarites? Both have good guard skills and can play 1-3. However, Lebron's athletism is better and he is stronger.

[The Toilet]

lebron is way more athletic, but I liken brewers playmaking and poor shooting to lebron when he came out..

[lunarblues]

He reminds me more of Joe Johnson. their games were awfully similar. either way i don't see any way that he gets past the hawks. he is every thing we need out of the point guard position. after aldridge, Ronnie is at the top of the list.

[alsonotlefthanded]

I like the accuracy of his passes and his patience in terms of playing within the offense and sharing the ball but.... I think if a team is expecting he'll be a "complete" NBA pg they'll be in for a few unfortunate surprises.

I'm not saying he's bad, and I've only watched the January Alabama game completely, but based on that we shouldn't be expecting a "PG" but a big player who can cheat onto the PG position. Perhaps in that sense the lebron comparison is accurate as he isn't, or could he really ever start as a PG. If pressed I'd say he's a better PG candidate then Lebron but that's still in part due to the holes in his game that will limit him at other positions.

Specifically he seems to pickup his dribble a lot, relies on his size to recover if his first move doesn't work out, and I thought I saw a tendency to panic and throw a few passes thrown before looking. With his head up and the ball in his hands I think he's comparatively slow when bringing the ball up or "leading" (cough) a fast break (cough).

What I was surprised by was his speed without the ball and how he handles contact so having said all that bad stuff I might still draft him in the mid lotto if he can defend the point and I'm pretty sure his lotto position is secure. Teams like the Bulls, Rockets, Jazz, Celtics could all use him.

[Force]

He reminds me more of Joe Johnson. their games were awfully similar. either way i don't see any way that he gets past the hawks. he is every thing we need out of the point guard position. after aldridge, Ronnie is at the top of the list.
Joe Johnson had a better shot coming out of college.

As for his point guard abilities, I doubt he can be a main point guard, just like Mardy Collins won't. Hell, plays like Foye who is a very good guard may have trouble being the "complete" point like Nash who creates plays for others.

Yet, I'm willing to gamble that two big guards(Johnson and Brewer) that have above average point guard skillsets can get alway without having a true point. Especially since both can defend.

[lunarblues]

yeah, one of their differences was that Joe did have a better shot. however with ronnie, Joe could move back to the spot that the hawks wanted him to play at without losing ball handling or size. the fact that he could take some of the pressure off would be most beneficial.

[Razor]

I'm a Raptor fan as well and I hope we can get R. Gay not because of only his potential offence but because he is right now a lock down defender. And the Raptors need defence. But a PG is needed and a center like Joakim Noah out of Florida would look awesome.

[Razor]

I'm a Raptor fan as well and I hope we can get R. Gay not because of only his potential offence but because he is right now a lock down defender. And the Raptors need defence. But a PG is needed and a center like Joakim Noah out of Florida would look awesome.

[Force]

Raptors need to be looking at best two way talent at either guard or center position.

[alsonotlefthanded]

Raptors need to be looking at best two way talent at either guard or center position.

If that's your stance I think I pretty convincing case can be made for Brewer. As I've watched a few of his games (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/collegebroadcast/teams/jps) I've noticed a lot of players don't even try to penetrate against him. I'm beginning to wonder if he style of play on offense and lack of vertical jump is masking how agile or much of an athelte he is.

[osaurus]

well since we are on this raptors topic i would say the raps need the best SG/PG combo and nobody better then Bradon Roy out there in my opinion. in the second round Taj Gray would be a nice pick as well unless somettin happens. Nene and Magloire will be availabe to sign depending on the offers

[bluedevil12]

Think it's already been said but Brewer is a poor-man's Lebron James. He's very athletic, very long, and most importantly he has GREAT court vision and the ability to get the ball to the open guy. I HATE Arkansas but I love what this guy could be in the NBA. Not the type of player that's gonna score 35 but he's definitly a guy who could get you 15p, 6r, and 8a every night. If I was a GM I'd be hard pressed to let him slide past the mid to late lottery.

[THEGOODTHIEF]

Ronnie Brewer reminds me of Josh Howard of the MAVS .Howard is a quality defender who can guard 1s,2s,3s or even some smaller 4s .On offense ,with his quick 1st step & long strides he can get to the rim almost any time he wants now that he has improved his 3 pt shot to where teams have to guard him on perimeter .Rebounds well .If MAVS don't resign Jason Terry look for Josh to up his scoring to 18-22 pts per game .The way the NBA is now calling fouls on all perimeter contact ,it makes players such as Josh even more valuable because he will get to the rim & finish strong .

Have not seen Brewer play alot this year but from what I did see ,he has many of the same attributes & potential as Howard - think they're both about 6'7 .Brewer a better passer/ball handler/creator .What little I saw of him ,looked as if he can get to the rim ,play good defense & do the little things that help teams win but might not show up in the boxscore .Is he explosive & determined when he attacks the rim ?Strength issues ?Should be a matchup nightmare for other teams .Assuming he can improve his jumper ,he may be projected too low in the draft .seems like he has tremendous upside .What am I missing that would make teams talk about taking Reddick ,Rondo & Carney ahead of him ?

Howard reminds me of a poor man's Scottie Pippen without the baggage .Plus he has plenty of upside too .Does Brewer have the athletic abilty , basketballs skills & metal toughess to one day be on that level ?

[coachjon]

rondo aside since he is a pg from what i have seen i would take carney, brewer and then redick.

what he has going for him so far in workouts is his size though he is a legit 6'7 with a 6'11 wingspan and he is a very intelligent player and plays pretty good defense. he had a very good workout with the bulls recently but it was against guys that he should have dominated in shannon brown and most likely to not get drafted or late second round guys dwayne mitchell, sean dockery, david noel and jared newson.

on the atletic side he is not overly athletic but he is one of those guys that can compensate his lack of athleticism by knowing how to use it.

i think he is a guy that will have nba success depending on where he lands. if a team is trying to use him as a taller PG which some are looking at him to do because he is very versatile and proved he was a legit PG in college setting up teammates great with good court vision i actually think he is going to be a bust in the nba. or if the team drafting him wants him to be a go to wing scorer which he will have trouble doing in the nba. he reminds me of jeryl sasser who was a versatile type point forward also taht never made it in the nba because the magic tried to make him a PG.

now if a team uses him in a josh howard type of role where he plays the wing mostly and can utilize his versatility, slashing abilities, and shut down defensive skills and they are looking for him to be a 3rd or 4th option type player offensively and not shoulder the load i think he will become a good complimentary starter in the league.

[kingpudgey]

i think Ronnie will be something special in the NBA. He will be a feel good player and will give inspiration to young people who have been injured early in their life, saying that they can still achieve great things as long as they work at it. i would love for this guy to go to the Magic at the 11th pick. Even though he has an ugly shot, he would be very effective when the other team sends double teams at Dwight with him getting some open looks from the outside. he can also finish strong around the basket.