Official Thread: Tiago Splitter [Archive]

11player

03-16-2006, 11:24 AM

To me, talent wise, it's pretty evident this kid would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft. However, considering Jonathan's mailbag and the news he mentions there about his talk with Splitter's agent, I'm quite sure Splitter will not be in this year's draft for his contract implications.
He will declare once more, as always, but nobody will give him a top 5 guarantee like he wishes bc his contract doesn't have a buyout, runs until 2008 and Tau is the hardest team to negotiate in the entire Europe.
For a player like Splitter I expect Tau to ask for a 5 million plus buyout, which is very unviable.
So, considering the risk of drafting him and not having him coming to the NBA, as well as the fact that a top 5 drafting team needs immediate help, I really don't expect Splitter to keep his name in this draft, unless something can be arranged with Tau before the withdrawal date.

Iluso

03-17-2006, 10:58 AM

osaurus

03-17-2006, 11:40 PM

u nevah know, i think the Raptors are lookin for a big man on this comin draft to play along side Bosh and Villanueva and from what i have seen out there, Tiago could very well address some of those needs, rebounds, blocks and hustle.

keepin in mind that aldridge will most likely be in in chicaco uni, unless by some miracle he drops to 5th or 6th pick which i dont see happenin'

jonatansimon

03-18-2006, 09:24 AM

Tiago Will be a great player in the NBA, His potential is enormous, every game he plays He improves... Good defender, great size, fast enough...have to improve his outside shoot...

I dont care if He will be top 5 or top 10, if he enters, will be one of the 4 best player on this draft.

Just look how Varejao is playing last games (TIAGO IS A WAY BETTER THAN ANDERSON VAREJAO) both played here in spain.

there are nice prospects in europe (Rudy, Tiago, Bargnani, Sergio...)

Razor

03-20-2006, 04:50 PM

It all depends on how the ping pong balls fall....doesn't it.

11player

03-20-2006, 05:53 PM

I think it depends a lot more on what can be work out with Tau, in terms of a clear and viable buyout.

planaria

03-22-2006, 09:48 PM

Splitter had a big test today. I can't give any insight information, because I just follow today's game by the online box score, but looked a VERY physical game, against Lietuvos Rytas.

Tons of blocks and fouls for the lituans (30 fouls in a 40 minutes game :o ). Splitter had to play almost 37 minutes (game high) because Davis and Scola were in foul trouble.

He had 8 points (2/4 FGs and 4/7 FTs), 8 rebounds, 2 steals, 4 PFs, 5 fouls against and he was blocked 3 times.

I still cant understand why Splitter is so little used in Tau's offense. 4 shots in 37 minutes is ridicule. Davis had the same number in just 13 minuts.

Javtokas his biggest matchup tonight had 7 points and 7 rebounds in 22 minutes (foul trouble in first time). Matthew Nielsen had 10 points and 4 rebounds in 23 minutes (fouled out).

Lietuvos 65 x 63 Tau - Lietuvos needed to win by more than 7 points to still alive in Euroleague. So, Tau is in the next round.

IMO, Javtokas beside Scola is the best non-draft European prospect, right now. He simply plays NBA game...

Zalgirinis

03-23-2006, 04:51 AM

IMO, Javtokas beside Scola is the best non-draft European prospect, right now. He simply plays NBA game...

Both Scola and Javtokas are drafted by Spurs actually.

I saw the game yesterday and Splitter once again didnt impress me. This time not like game in Vitoria he at least had decent game in defense, but his offense... Its not only the thing hes not involved there. When he had ball he also didnt feel confident. Once he was blocked by stiffy Povilas Cukinas, who didnt play at all in regular season. In 4th quarter he was free to shoot from few meters, he hesitated and then shot and of course shot wasnt in. Not even talking about two huge highlight blocks he received from Javtokas in 1st half. Also hes a liability at FT line.

His defense was alright, but Javtokas and Cukinas are really limited in offense also, so its not like he had big opponents vs him personally. He also missed few rebounds allowing Rytas to attack again, but probably it happens when you play 37 minutes. So to conclude he was decent, but very far from spectacular.

planaria

03-23-2006, 11:39 AM

Both Scola and Javtokas are drafted by Spurs actually.

I know that. I means that they're the best NBA prospects in Europe not going to the next draft. Spurs have great scouts in Europe. Javtokas will have a nice future in NBA, IMO.

And yes, It wasnt one impressive game by Splitter. It was one of his worst this season, but everybody knows that would be a tough matchup for him (against really physical players).

A decent game in these situations arent that bad, IMO.

Genjuro

03-23-2006, 11:42 AM

Splitter still suffers a lot going against big, physical and athletic guys such as Javtokas. Besides, he hadn't played in the weekend because some injury problems, and I'm not sure he's still fully recovered. Furthermore, it seems like he has hit some kind of wall right after the King's Cup, and he's not looking good in the last weeks.

planaria

03-23-2006, 03:12 PM

Splitter

Existen dos formas de valorar a un jugador. Una es la clásica, observar lo que hace cuando está en la cancha. La otra consiste en ver lo que pierde su equipo cuando no está. No es lo mismo, pues esta segunda valoración ya no sólo depende del valor intrínseco del jugador, sino de las posibilidades de sustitución que cuenta el colectivo. El talentoso Tiago Splitter no es el mejor jugador del Tau, pero sí es uno de los más insustituibles pues existen determinadas tareas en las que es el único de la plantilla que puede realizarlas con garantías. Por ejemplo, defender a un tipo como Daniel Santiago, el gigante del Unicaja. La mitad del liderato del Tau se escapó por ahí, pues el puertorriqueño hizo lo que le vino en gana. Maneja las dos manos, sabe mover los pies no sólo para andar y no rehúye la pelea. Si es que la hay, que la verdad es que con Drobnjak detrás... No es de extrañar que en las crónicas y análisis del día después se nombre a Splitter más que algunas veces que ha estado en cancha.

Interisting article about Splitter's impact in Tau's game. Genjuro could you translate for us? I think you could do it better than me (portunhol) :)

PS: There is a talk that Tau's president told this morning that Splitter is not going anywhere this summer. Looks like Splitter will back to one more season in Spain :(

KristianH

03-23-2006, 03:32 PM

From Freetranslation.com:

Two forms to value exist to a player. An it is the classic, to observe what does when is in the court. The other it consists of seeing what loses its team when is not. It is not the same thing, therefore this second appraisal no longer only depends on the intrinsic value of the player, but of the possibilities of replacement that counts the collective one. The talentoso Tiago Splitter is not the best player of the Tau, but yes is one of the most irreplaceable therefore they exist you determined tasks in which is the only one of the staff that can carry out with guarantees. For example, to defend to a type as Daniel Santiago, the giant of the Unicaja. The half of the leadership of the Tau escaped over there, therefore the puerto rican did what came him in desire. He handles the two hands, he knows to move the feet not only to walk and not rehúye the fight. If he is that there are it, that the truth is that with Drobnjak behind.. No wonder that in the chronicles and analysis of the day later itself name to Splitter more than some times that has been in court.

Genjuro

03-24-2006, 07:48 AM

Interisting article about Splitter's impact in Tau's game. Genjuro could you translate for us? I think you could do it better than me (portunhol) :)

PS: There is a talk that Tau's president told this morning that Splitter is not going anywhere this summer. Looks like Splitter will back to one more season in Spain :(
The translation that Kristian has brought to us seems pretty understandable to me.

Anyway, it's true that Splitter is next to indispensible to Tau because he's the only legit defending center. Besides, one of the biggest problems this season for Tau is that Luis Scola is not defending one bit. King's Cup aside, he puts little effort on it, so you need next to him someone devoted to defend, and that's Splitter.

As for Tiago not going to the NBA, I think it's the most likely thing. People close to the team in Spain think that he will (be forced to) stay another season.

I guess you don't care about European competition and/or you don't value what an extra season here can do to Splitter's game (I don't think you can complain about the way he's being developed over here), particularly if Scola finally leaves the team (might be, since Tau is almost qualifyied for the next three Euroleague editions). But I would be really happy to see Splitter back. I think that, if he goes right away to the NBA, he will risk to become only a role player, while staying a little longer he will have more chances to develop a more consistent offensive game that he could use in the next level.

planaria

03-26-2006, 02:38 PM

Another great game for Splitter in the 79 x 76 victory over Leche Río. Splitter had 17 points, 7 rebounds and 3 steals, but what most impressed were the 9 fouls he received yesterday.

Aton

03-26-2006, 05:28 PM

Aton

03-26-2006, 05:30 PM

Forgot to ask something, when is he automatically eligible for the Draft? I thought that was already happening this year.

Zalgirinis

03-27-2006, 01:49 AM

About the game against Lietuvos Rytas, I could't watch it too, it's not broadcasted here in Brazil. However, I did notice from the stats sheet that he had a real good first half. Almost all of his points and rebounds came from the first half (if im not wrong, 6 points and 7 blocks in the first half), when everyone else from the TAU squad played miserably. I would guess that he was responsible for avoiding a disaster in that first half. In the second half, his teammates stepped up, and even though he didn't put any numbers, his coach kept him there the entire game, which suggets something to me.

Not exactly to the point. First of all you probably meant 7 rebounds and not blocks, because Splitter didnt block anything. He was blocked himself 3 times with nasty swats. First half was a disaster for Tau and he didnt stop it. His coach kept him in, because for some reason Drobnjak wasnt playing and both Scola and David got into foul trouble. Well, if you look at whole game and you see that he managed not to foul out and to be some kind of corner stone in defense you can say it was alright game for him, but actually nothing too much impressive.

Regarding his offense game, I'm not sure if it's a matter of attitude, or it's just that TAU never wanted to risk anything developing his offense.

I think its both. Maybe more for the 2nd reason, but in the games I saw throughout his career (never with Brazil NT) he never looked confident in offense. But again maybe its the wrong games I catch, because from more than 10 games I never saw him scoring more than 12 or smth.

planaria

03-27-2006, 10:50 AM

I think its both. Maybe more for the 2nd reason, but in the games I saw throughout his career (never with Brazil NT) he never looked confident in offense. But again maybe its the wrong games I catch, because from more than 10 games I never saw him scoring more than 12 or smth.

I have no doubt about the second reason. It's not like he is a score machine, but he is able to do a lot more than he's doing.

For Brazilian NT, he was our 2nd/3rd offense option, what's a great in a team that historicaly dont let its frontcourt work in the offense and ever rather long shots.

In ACB league, his average (9.8 ppg) is already for his time in court (22 mpg) and is even impressive when you notice that he doesnt shot more than 6 balls per game. It's means that there isnt a lot of plays designed for him in Tau Ceramica.

Razor

03-27-2006, 11:14 AM

KristianH

03-27-2006, 12:06 PM

Noah, because he has more skills on offense, while being atleast as good defender as Tiago.

planaria

03-27-2006, 12:08 PM

If, you were the Raptors GM with a top 5 draft pick....and lets say Tiago could come to the NBA (lets say his contract gets bought out or resolved somehow) who would you take....Joakim Noah out of Florida or Splitter?

The correct answer: If you want a braziliand, then sign Nene.

I dont think Splitter would work well with Bosh or/and Villaneuva. Too skinny bodies in just one frontcourt. Splitter is a PF and would be better playing beside a big and strong center.

11player

03-27-2006, 05:08 PM

From the Raptors point of view, I'd say it would depend on Noah's mesurements bc it seems he is more of a PF at the NBA level, being 6'11 in shoes.
What the Raptors really don't need is another PF to a roster that already includes Bosh, CV, Bonner and Sow.

Noah has a better all around game, real skills, will adapt faster and better to the NBA than Splitter, but his game translates better to the PF position.

Splitter, on the other hand, is a legit 6'11 bare feet kid with incredible quickness for his size. He is a defensive specialist at this point and nobody can indicate for sure how good he can become in the offensive end. His shooting mechanics are a little off right now and seem akward and un-natural, specially when he is shooting free-throws, though it is easy fixed. This alone would improve significantly his offensive production.

Comparing the two players, I think Splitter is more what the Raptors are looking for bc he is more of a 5 than Noah.
Selecting Noah would be duplicating Bosh's presence on the team, though It wouldn't be bad at all.
Both players will bulk up dramatically once they start the NBA's wheight training regime and are a real improvement over the current situation.
At the end, I think the Raptors should just pick the BPA and, at the moment, Noah is the better choice. Yet, that could change real quickly.

planaria

03-27-2006, 07:57 PM

Noah has a better all around game, real skills, will adapt faster and better to the NBA than Splitter, but his game translates better to the PF position.

Agreed with the most, but I really dont think that Noah will adapt faster and better to NBA than Splitter. Splitter play basketball between high level pros for years (5?). He has to match up against strong 6-11/7-0 centers almost every game since he was 17.

The difference of pace also shouldnt be a major concern. For Brazilian National Team he showed that could play in the American basketball style even better than in the european pace (higher in the offensive end).

Of course, there is the difference of strongness, but this one works in the same wat for both prospects.

I dont know, I just think that Noah would have more problems in defensive end at the begin.

planaria

03-29-2006, 05:33 PM

Nice all around game by Splitter tonight against CSKA. The game wasnt that excitant, because both teams were already guaranteed for the next round.

BTW, both teams played hard and the game was close until the end. Splitter hadnt monster numbers but he was clutch at the end, like you can see:

End of period

40. min

Langdon Trajan (CSKA Moscow)
offensive rebound (1.)

Savrasenko Aleksey (CSKA Moscow)
missed layup

Savrasenko Aleksey (CSKA Moscow)
offensive rebound (3.)

Smodis Matjaz (CSKA Moscow)
missed 3-pointer

Prigioni Pablo (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (70-63)

Prigioni Pablo (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (69-63)

Prigioni Pablo (Tau Cerámica)
foul against (1.)

Holden John Robert (CSKA Moscow)
foul (2.)

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
defensive rebound (3.)

Langdon Trajan (CSKA Moscow)
missed 3-pointer

Smodis Matjaz (CSKA Moscow)
foul against (4.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
foul (2.)

Papaloukas Theodoros (CSKA Moscow)
foul against (2.)

Vidal Sergi (Tau Cerámica)
foul (1.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made layup (68-63)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
offensive rebound (2.)

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
missed free throw

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (66-63)

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
foul against (8.)

Smodis Matjaz (CSKA Moscow)
foul (4.)

39. min

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
steal (3.)

Langdon Trajan (CSKA Moscow)
turnover (1.)

Langdon Trajan (CSKA Moscow)
defensive rebound (6.)

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
missed layup

Smodis Matjaz (CSKA Moscow)
turnover (2.)

Prigioni Pablo (Tau Cerámica)
steal (2.)

38. min

Smodis Matjaz (CSKA Moscow)
defensive rebound (4.)

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
missed layup

Holden John Robert replaces
Vanterpool David

Papaloukas Theodoros replaces
Holden John Robert

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (65-63)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
missed free throw

Tau Cerámica steal

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
foul against (2.)

Holden John Robert (CSKA Moscow)
turnover (6.)

Holden John Robert (CSKA Moscow)
foul (1.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
defensive rebound (3.)

Holden John Robert (CSKA Moscow)
missed jumper

Scola Luis (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (64-63)

Final: Tau 70 x 63

Splitter's numbers:

24 minutes
8 points (3/7 FG and 2/4 FT)
5 rebounds (2 offensive rebounds)
3 steals
2 blocks
2 fouls
2 fouls received
0 TO

11player

03-30-2006, 11:58 AM

Agreed with the most, but I really dont think that Noah will adapt faster and better to NBA than Splitter.

I just said that bc as an international player Splitter might suffer from the language barrier and diferent country and culture. Noah won't have that problem.

planaria

03-30-2006, 05:20 PM

I just said that bc as an international player Splitter might suffer from the language barrier and diferent country and culture. Noah won't have that problem.

I undestand, you talk not about the game adaption, but about out of court adaption.

BTW, I have my doubts if Splitter doesnt speak english already, since he cames from a high medium class family (Is there this term in US? It's between a rich family and a poor family, but closer to a rich one).

11player

03-31-2006, 04:01 PM

Hey Planaria,
I'm from Brazil. I know Splitter's father who graduated in law school with my father.
Splitter and my younger brother were teammates at Ipiranga here in Brazil and he used to go to the same school I studied. I saw this kid grow up and watched many of his early games.
BTW, by that time he used to completelly dominate competition and was a major offensive force, including having a mid-range game and knocking down those shots frequently.

Yes, his family is kind of rich in here and the school he used to go had english classes, not good ones, but had it.
He moved to Spain at age 15 and although I'm pretty sure he has a basic knowledge of the language(considering he didn't studied it in Spain), it may take a while for him to adapt and feel confortable in both the US and NBA.

Just for the record, Splitter has a younger brother and a sister who also play basketball. His brother, a 6'5 wing player is currently training with Junior Brazilian NT trying to make the final cut. His sister, a 6'7 Center, who at age 14 was a constant name in the women's Brazil NT, even in older categories, was diagnosed with leucemia a couple of years ago. Unfortunatelly I haven't heard from her ever since.

wardjdim

03-31-2006, 06:12 PM

His sister, a 6'7 Center, who at age 14 was a constant name in the women's Brazil NT, even in older categories, was diagnosed with leucemia a couple of years ago. Unfortunatelly I haven't heard from her ever since.
Sad story man...

planaria

04-03-2006, 12:36 AM

31 minutes, 11 points, 9 rebounds, 1 assist in the victory over Real Madrid...

11player

04-03-2006, 06:18 PM

I was wondering?
Considering Splitter's contract runs out in 2008, isn't it Tau's best interest to fix a high but viable buyout for Splitter now than risking watching him walk away for nothing in 2008?

I mean, if Splitter doesn't stay in this year's draft he will be automatically in the 2007 draft being a 1985-born prospect. The 2007 draft looks to be stronger than this one which could cause Splitter to slip and not have enough money to pay his buyout. That would force Tau to lower the buyout or just keep Splitter in his final contract year, after which he would walk free.

To me, It seems natural Tau will need to rebuild its frontcourt bc Scola and Splitter will bolt for the NBA and Kornel David is on the downside of his career. So it's not really wise to hold on to these players.
Tau should fix a high buyout(4-5m) and take a chance at having Splitter selected high (very probable) and paying a good compensation for leaving.

Hitster

04-04-2006, 09:42 AM

I think that Splitter really does need to declare this year, there has been talk of him declaring for a couple of years and being drafted in a resonable position will give him the salary to buyout his contract obviously with a lot of potential endorsements etc. The lack of quality Centers coming through has always been a problem, look how excited everyone was about Bogut last year and the hype surrounding Oden already. Apart from Aldridge, Splitter has a good chance of being the highest drafted Center after Aldridge this year but next year he would be a 22 year old up against 19 year olds and with less upside potential. Splitter would be a good pick say for the likes of Orlando or Minnesota.

11player

04-04-2006, 10:35 AM

The problem is, I think Splitter will only stay if he is given a top 5 promisse.
He will certainly have a big buyout to pay this year and he won't be able to pay it unless he is picked in the top 5. Which is very possible.

Only Noah, Aldridge and Gay will surelly be higher than him, Morrison and Bargnani are probable but who knows what could happen until June. Splitter has a lot of big games ahead of him.

With Scola' buyout and Splitter's, both probably ranging around 4-5m, Tau would have enough money to build a powerhouse for years to come in Europe.
It just seems dumb, for them, not to do it.

planaria

04-04-2006, 09:47 PM

Another good game by Tiago Splitter, but Tau Ceramica was defeat by Panathinaikos at Greece (84 x 72, but it was really close until the last 3 minutes).

25 minutes
12 points
6 rebounds (3 offensives)
1 assist
2 fouls
1 TO
6 fouls received

20 efficiency points (Tau's leader).

In Solobasket.com report, they told that Splitter was the best player for Tau Ceramica.
http://www.solobasket.com/contenido.php?id=11390

wardjdim

04-06-2006, 07:05 PM

I love Splitter maybe more than all players in this draft but I m usually prettty demanding towards my fav players.
Today, in Tau's win over Panathinaikos, I can definitely say that this was the best Splitter game I ve ever watched. So smooth and strong offensively. Great finisher, nice jumper, offensive will, great footwork, fine passing game, fighting for the offensive board, good connection with his teammates, ability to get the best position possible to receive Prigioni's passes when Scola was out and Tiago needed to be the go-to player.
Defensively, excellent timing, nobody could score against him. When Spanoulis and Lakovic tried to penetrate, they were immediately blocked. Good rebounding mechanics, block out ability, tough defense on a stronger (Batiste) player twice with good hustling, or on a weaker (Tsartsaris) big man, using his nice and quick body movement and ability to cover the space needed in the minimum possible time.
Excellent games. One more block on Lakovic was whistled a foul, because the refs were pushing Panathinaikos throughout the game, but Tiago was very very good today..

planaria

04-06-2006, 07:06 PM

WOW! AMAZING game by Tiago Splitter and Tau Ceramica has survived in the series against the strong Panathinaikos.

17 points (7/8 FG and 3/4 FT)
4 rebounds (2 offensives rebounds that resulted in put backs)
2 assists
2 steals
1 block
5 fouls
4 fouls received
33 minutes (game leader)

and clutch final before be ejected with 5 fouls:

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (74-69)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
missed free throw

Scola Luis replaces
David Kornel

Alvertis Fragiskos (Panathinaikos)
foul (2.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
foul against (4.)

Panathinaikos timeout

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made layup (73-67)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
block shot (1.)

Spanoulis Vasileios (Panathinaikos)
shot rejected (1.)

Spanoulis Vasileios (Panathinaikos)
missed layup

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made free throw (71-67)

Tsartsaris Konstantinos (Panathinaikos)
foul (4.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
foul against (3.)

Splitter Tiago (Tau Cerámica)
made jumper (70-67)
33. min

Tau Cerámica timeout

Score (Tau Ceramica 68-67 Panathinaikos)

Final score: Tau 84 x 78 Panathinaikos

Good job kid!

planaria

04-06-2006, 07:31 PM

Splitter brought the crowd out of their seats by coming back with a three-point play inside shot followed by a monster block and fastbreak layup to put Tau back in charge, 73-67

Euroleague.net

11player

04-07-2006, 11:40 AM

Man, you gotta love this kid.
So much energy, so much hustle, so much heart, and rises up when the game is on the line.
That kid is a player bro!

planaria

04-09-2006, 06:09 PM

Another nice game for him in the easy victory against Granada (78 x 66). Most of his numbers came from the first game (in true all, but 2 points and 1 rebound) when Tau constructed the victory.

His numbers:

26 minutes
11 points
2 rebounds
1 assist
3 steals
2 blocks
3 fouls
3 TOs

Aton

04-09-2006, 10:23 PM

I don't know if any you guys actually agree with me, but I'm actually hoping that Splitter stays in Europe for another season or too. When I think about it, I see him becoming TAU's franchise player, getting more touches on offense and playing a bigger role for them. And I see him as one of Euroleague's top stars.

And then I think about Darko, Skita, Boris Diaw in Atlanta, Macijauskas and Jasikevicius and others, and how many NBA teams still don't know how to manage the transition from Europe to the NBA. Splitter will only be able to fully reach his potential if the enters the NBA as a recognized offensive force, and that will only happen if he is given a little bit more time in Europe.

11player

04-10-2006, 12:35 PM

I'm not sure.
Once Splitter comes he will need some good time to adapt to the different game system, develop his game and body, according to the Nba.
At 21 years old he is right on time to begin this process, being healthy and motivated, which will turn him into a great NBA player in 3 years time.
Of course it will not hurt him much staying for another year in Tau and becoming an offensive player with the departure of Scola, but I think the timing is right for him to come.
It could also mean a better compensation money for Tau, specially with Noah staying and possibly Gay and Morrison.

11player

04-11-2006, 06:27 PM

If the buyout sum of 2 million is true I expect Splitter to be in this year's draft if he is given a promisse in the top 5 or very close to it.

KristianH

04-11-2006, 06:34 PM

It seems like Splitter suffered againts NBA reject Curtis Borchardt past weekend.

11player

04-12-2006, 11:48 AM

It seems like Splitter suffered againts NBA reject Curtis Borchardt past weekend.
Did you watch the game?

KristianH

04-12-2006, 12:27 PM

I wouldn`t write "it seems" if i watched the game, but Borchardt is type of player - big and strong - that gives Splitter fits usually.

planaria

04-12-2006, 05:05 PM

I dont know if he matchup with Borchardt in this game, since Kornell David has played big minutes and it's the nature matchup for Borchardt.

Really nice game tonight! Tau Ceramica is in Final Four again. Tiago Splitter was a big factor in the victory until be go out in foul trouble early in second half (Tau had a nice advantage and Splitter with 4 fouls just backed in the last seconds).

I could watch most of the second half and at least two fouls on Tiago were VERY questionable.

22 minutes
11 points (3/6 FG and 5/5 FT)
3 rebounds (all offensive)
1 assist
4 fouls

jonatansimon

04-12-2006, 06:43 PM

When a Team from Greece plays at home...REferees makes a lot of mistakes (In Spain We have a lot of bad experiences with the referees when our teams play against teams from greece)

Splitter game was solid, good first half...need to improve his defense against powerful opponents (like batiste today)...and need to improve a lot from the free throw line.

KristianH

04-12-2006, 07:11 PM

His rebounding numbers have been poor lately, but is pretty good rebounded actually.

planaria

04-12-2006, 07:48 PM

I cant remember a flopper like that guy called Fragiskos (counting Manu). I'm pretty sure that he has argentine blood. Lol

That crowd was an absurd. You dont see that stuff in NBA. It's like a mini soccer stadium. Really nice.

KristianH, I know that Splitter numbers in rebounds arent great these past games, but I dont understand what happens with european stats counters. In half time highlights they showed for a lot of times a play that Splitter catched a defensive rebound (if you watched the game in turkish TV, you might remember). And then...they didnt give any defensive rebound for Splitter in the box score.

planaria

04-16-2006, 12:21 PM

An article in portuguese written by me about Splitter in the last Pao x Tau game. In true, it's more a play by play with a small resume at the end.

http://www.draftbrasil.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1409

The english version by Google translator:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.draftbrasil.net%2Fmod ules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D14 09&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Aton

04-16-2006, 01:45 PM

An article in portuguese written by me about Splitter in the last Pao x Tau game. In true, it's more a play by play with a small resume at the end.

Hey, very nice article. (obviously I read it in Portuguese, any doubts on the google translation to english just mention it and I'll translate it). How did you watch the game? Are you in Europe, or did you download the game from the internet?

From your article, seems like an excellent game from Splitter, except for the trouble guarding Batiste and a couple of fouls he shouldn't have committed.

planaria

04-16-2006, 04:17 PM

Hey Aton,

Thanks for the words. Actually I've watched the game by a torrent file. If you want the link, ask me by PM.

I wouldnt call a excelent game, since it was an ordinary one from Splitter. Actually he use to do that in almost every game. And yes, most of his troubles in defenses came against strong opponents like Batiste, but it's nothing that a hard work in legs muscles dont resolve.

If you have a chance to watch this game you'll notice that refs doesnt respect Splitter, yet. In the play that he was suposely blocked two times, he was actually hammered hard, IMO. It's remembered me some fouls that Yao Ming is used to receive from smaller guys in the NBA.

Others fouls he really commited because he couldnt stop Batiste alone.

Something that impressed me in this game was his passing abilities. In more than a couple of times he could find the wide open guy when the double defense came.

BTW,

Another nice game by Splitter in the ACB today:

21 min
12 points
7 rebounds (5 offensives)
2 assists
1 steal
1 TO
2 PFs
16 Eff. points

Aton

04-19-2006, 06:26 PM

Euroleague.net has an interesting feature called "Final Four Insiders". It cover a player from each team, behind the scenes. The player from TAU feature is Splitter.

The address: http://www.euroleague.net/finalfour06/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=25&id=891

The first paragraph:

One of the most-watched young talents in the world, Tau Ceramica center Tiago Splitter, will make his second consecutive Final Four appearance in Prague at the tender age of 21. Splitter's game has always been something to watch. At 2.12 meters, he runs the floor like a guard and loves to rise for blocks and dunks. His progress has peaked at precisely the right time, too, as he averaged 13.3 points and 4.3 rebounds in the quarterfinals to help propel Tau into the Final Four. After a title game appearance last year, the arrival of Splitter and his prodigious talent can mean even more success for Tau in Prague.

KristianH

04-19-2006, 07:28 PM

Splitter`s scoring numbers are up, but rebounding is suffering. In last 6 games, both in Euroleague and ACB Splitter is averaging 4.0 rebounds in 26.5 minutes per game...his other stats over that stretch: 13.5 ppg, 29/43 FG !!!, 22/28 FT (huge improvement over 49% from Euroleague regular season and Top 16), 0.6 blocks, 1 steal, 1.5 turnover and was blocked 6 times during these 6 games.

Im really impressed with his FT shooting and FG percentage, but his defensive stats are down.

Aton

04-19-2006, 07:58 PM

It seems to me that rebounding is not one of his strengths. He usually doesn't get very high numbers. Lately, he had been grabbing more rebounds, but in the period you mentioned it returned to his normal numbers. I have to point though, that in the first two games of the quarterfinals, he had more or as many rebounds as anyone in his team. And in the third game Scola and Kornel went nuts and both had 10 plus rebounds. Another important thing: he gets as many rebounds as Bargnani, and damn, he actually gets as many points too (wasn't Splitter supposed to be the defense stud with no offense, and Bargnani the scoring-Mago?)

About his defense, I don't think it's right to use his stats to say that his defense was not as good in those games. The best part of his defense is the one that doesn't show on stats: instead of gambling on blocks and steals that would get him better numbers, but would leave his man often wide open, he stays close to his man and never lets him get a good look. Only who actually watched him play could comment on that, and I didn't.

ELIEZER

04-20-2006, 02:32 PM

HEY YPU SPLITTERS GUYS, TELL ME WHO IS A BETTER BIG BOY
SHELDEN WILLIAMS WILL BE BETTER THAN TIAGO, THOMAS HAS THE BIGGEST UPSIDE, SPLITTER COULD BE A MOST IMPROVED PLAYER IN 5 OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

Andrea Bargnani
11.2PPG, 5.3RPG

Tiago Splitter
10.3PPG, 4.8RPG

LaMarcus Aldridge
15.0PPG, 9.2RPG

Tyrus Thomas
12.2PPG,9.3RPG

Patrick O'Bryant
13.4PPG,8.3RPG

Shelden Williams
18.8PPG,10.7RPG

Aton

04-20-2006, 11:33 PM

Hi there. I don't know what you mean by "SPLITTER COULD BE A MOST IMPROVED PLAYER IN 5 OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW."

I can't compare Splitter to the NCAA guys, as their games are not broadcasted here. But I don't think that comparing their stats to Splitter's is adequate: they play in totally different leagues, so the stats from one league can't be translated to another (games differ in points average, for instance) and more importantly, the competition where Splitter and Bargnani are playing is WAY tougher.

I'm not sure, but I'd say that the quality of play in the Tournament of Americas is similar to NCAA's, and Splitter's stats there were:

14.7 ppg, 9.6 rebounds, 1.0 assists, 1.3 steals and 1.6 blocks.

And Splitter has developed a lot since that tournament, and the best feature of his game is those things you can't translate to numbers.

Jonathan

04-20-2006, 11:58 PM

scouting report updated. Thanks to Luis.

jonatansimon

04-21-2006, 06:07 AM

Great Profile of Tiago, I am tired of seen Tiago every week here in Spain.... He nees to improve a lot of things (confident in his shooting, need some weight...) but I think he could be a good player with a lot of minutes in the NBA, He plays good D every Game, has size, work for his teammates, very coachable..... youll maybe never see Tiago plays an All star, but will have a long career as a inside player in the NBA.

bigman

04-26-2006, 10:30 AM

Is Splitter pulling out of 2006 draft? Anyone heard anything to that effect?

11player

04-26-2006, 12:43 PM

If they can't get a buyout sum fixed before the withdrawal date he is definetelly pulling out.
The same if the can't get a promisse in the top 10, although I think he is looking more for a promise in the top 7

KristianH

04-26-2006, 01:16 PM

He has 2 more years of contract with Tau, so they won`t let him go this year without large buyout cca. 2millions at very least. I think he won`t declare.

Jonathan

04-26-2006, 01:58 PM

he's declaring for sure, the only question is whether he stays in.

renan

05-01-2006, 10:10 PM

They follow the Splitter and the Araujo in the Brazilian teams for world-wide the 2006. Splitter and the Araujo is very good! the Raptors nao knows to play with the Center
Araujo irá mostrar ao raptors como o Center deve jogar!!!!!! BRASIL 200 - Japan

Nene
Varejao
Araujo
Leandrinho Barbosa
Marcelinho
Alex Garcia
Thiago Splitter
Guilherme giovanoni
Marcelinho huertas
J.P. Batista
Murilo Becker
Marcus vinicius
entre outros......

planaria

05-02-2006, 03:04 AM

planaria

05-03-2006, 12:55 AM

A new exam has showed that Splitter doesnt have any major injury in his left shoulder and that he should be back in 15 days.

11player

05-03-2006, 12:58 PM

So he will be back for the Spanish playoffs, right?

Man, what a dose of bad luck, draft-wise. Splitter would really benefit from a strong performance right now, to solidify his status.

Splitter could have helped himself a lot with a good performance in the final4. Say, 13/8 average would have done it for him. Maybe in the playoffs.

What happened to Tau in the first game against Macabbi? They were so passive. Is Splitter the only one that plays D on that team? Once he went out the Defense fell apart.

I guess Splitter still lacks strenght and bulk to play in the NBA, he is being listed at 240 or 245, but he looked every bit of a 230 to me, rather fragile. The kid is tough, although will not be able to help much at the next level unless he adds some serious bulk.

Genjuro

05-03-2006, 02:38 PM

Man, what a dose of bad luck, draft-wise. Splitter would really benefit from a strong performance right now, to solidify his status.

Splitter could have helped himself a lot with a good performance in the final4. Say, 13/8 average would have done it for him. Maybe in the playoffs.
I'm not sure it was such a bad luck. After all, I still think he will pull out regardless how well he plays in the playoffs. In my opinion, Tau Vitoria will force him to stay another year, although you can't never know.

Toxicity

05-03-2006, 02:44 PM

I'm not sure it was such a bad luck. After all, I still think he will pull out regardless how well he plays in the playoffs. In my opinion, Tau Vitoria will force him to stay another year, although you can't never know.

According to NBADraft.net (http://www.nbadraft.net/2006earlyentry.asp) it seems Tiago can't withdraw from the draft because he already did it twice (as international)... what's the truth???

Genjuro

05-03-2006, 02:58 PM

According to NBADraft.net (http://www.nbadraft.net/2006earlyentry.asp) it seems Tiago can't withdraw from the draft because he already did it twice (as international)... what's the truth???
The truth is that internationals start with a clean slate this year, so Tiago can pull out.

planaria

05-03-2006, 05:05 PM

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1284

Read the last part of this article. I think it answer your question.

Toxicity

05-03-2006, 06:16 PM

Thanks.

It seems NBADraft.net is always one step behind... :D

planaria

05-03-2006, 07:13 PM

I wonder how this news could affect or even be a direct result of Splitter situation:

El TAU ficha a un ala-pívot de futuro
Teletovic vestirá la camiseta baskonista la próxima temporada, según informa el diario El Correo de Vitoria
Arturo Rodríguez 2 de mayo de 2006; 12:18 h. Tamaño del texto:

El viaje a Praga de la expedición del TAU Cerámica comandada por su presidente, Josean Querejeta, no se ha quedado única y exclusivamente en la disputa de la Final Four (en la que finalizaron terceros tras vencer al Winterthur FCB en el partido de consolación), sino que también ha servido para hacer negocios. El club vitoriano cerró en Praga un principio de acuerdo por tres años con Mirza Teletovic, un ala-pívot de 20 años 204 cm. de altura del que dicen que es el jugador de mayor progresión de Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Esta joven promesa tiene todas las papeletas de jugar la temporada 2006-2007 en la ACB, si bien el TAU Cerámica se reserva la opción de cancelar el contrato en tanto en cuanto el jugador se ha declarado elegible en el draft de la NBA, en donde Los Angeles Clippers es la franquicia americana más interesada en sus servicios. De no ser elegido en una posición alta en el próximo draft, Teletovic retirará su candidatura antes de ser elegido en un puesto muy bajo y esperará a otro año para marcharse a Estados Unidos, con lo que el TAU contaría con los servicios de este joven jugador.

Con todo, la directiva baskonista confía tanto en esta futura estrella bosnia que no ha dudado en pagar una compensación a su actual equipo, el Telindus Ostende, por la salida del jugador, ya que a Teletovic aún le restaba una campaña en su contrato.

Esta apuesta de futuro llega junto a la incorporación ya anunciada de Kaya Peker, un pívot turco que juega en el Efes Pilsen y que la próxima campaña llegará a Vitoria.

ja809

05-04-2006, 01:05 AM

planaria

05-04-2006, 01:23 AM

I'm not buying the hype, for two years we heard about how Martynas was the next Sabonis, now we have the Cavs people saying they don't consider him an NBA player, and they traded for him as a favor to Herb Rudoy (Ilgauskas's agent).

Splitter's not a big time producer overseas, so why assume he's going to get it done in the NBA?

Is he anything more than Varejao?

You add his buyout situation to the mix, and I can't imagine his stock being that high.

If last year taught us anything (all the hyped up internationals that didn't go anywhere near their projections), it shouldn't be a shock if he goes 2nd round this year.

It'd be shock if he goes 2nd round this year. It'd be absurd. Martynas, Skita, Milicic, all were zero producer overseas (at least in pro leagues).

Splitter produce in Europe the same as Gasol produced there at the same age (more in defense end, less in ofensive end).

Go ahead and try to find 21 years old big time producers in Europe. This simply doesnt exist.

Splitter is already a key player for Tau Ceramica (a Top 5 team in Europe). This is very rare in Europe...

planaria

05-04-2006, 01:36 AM

Is he anything more than Varejao?

Yes, he is already better than Varejao and with a large upside.

In terms of production, he use to put better numbers playing for Brazilian NT than Nene used to did (okay, Nene is away from the NT for at least 2/3 years).

osaurus

05-04-2006, 01:42 AM

I'm not buying the hype, for two years we heard about how Martynas was the next Sabonis, now we have the Cavs people saying they don't consider him an NBA player, and they traded for him as a favor to Herb Rudoy (Ilgauskas's agent).

Splitter's not a big time producer overseas, so why assume he's going to get it done in the NBA?

Is he anything more than Varejao?

You add his buyout situation to the mix, and I can't imagine his stock being that high.

If last year taught us anything (all the hyped up internationals that didn't go anywhere near their projections), it shouldn't be a shock if he goes 2nd round this year.

2nd round??

c'mon now, he certainly isnt a Pau Gasol or Dirk but dont ridicule the man cause he does have potentials and certainly deserving of a top 10 pick.

the only thing that concerns me and might keep teams kinda uncertain about drafting him his his contract

planaria

05-04-2006, 01:58 AM

2nd round??

c'mon now, he certainly isnt a Pau Gasol or Dirk but dont ridicule the man cause he does have potentials and certainly deserving of a top 10 pick.

the only thing that concerns me and might keep teams kinda uncertain about drafting him his his contract

You're right about contract (it's a really big concern).

In this year draft, his body would be already enough to guarantee him a first round pick...

ja809

05-04-2006, 02:22 AM

I'm not saying he's a lock 2nd round pick or a 2nd round talent, its not always about talent...

He has a very ? buyout situation, and he's not dominating competition over there, STILL, after however many years he's been a key player.

I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt, I can't watch him play as much like some of you can, but when I read stuff like "he was a hardly a factor" or "he got dominated by Curtis Borchardt", in posts all over the board, it just gives me more reason not to believe in the hype.

ja809

05-04-2006, 02:25 AM

This very site had Roko, Martynas, and Ilyasova all as first round picks last year, they all went 2nd, I wouldn't be shocked to see him go first round, not at all, especially with the lack of big man talent in this draft, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him in the 2nd either.

Genjuro

05-04-2006, 07:26 AM

I wonder how this news could affect or even be a direct result of Splitter situation:
The signing of Teletovic doesn't affect Splitter at all. Teletovic will be the forth man in the inside rotation, or Tau will try to move him to the SF position. Splitter will be one of the centerpieces in the team next year.

Indeed it's said that Pecker (tough and valuable big man from Efes Pilsen) has an agreement with Tau; he would probably be behind Splitter in Tau's rotation, only a starter if Scola leaves the team and no other star is signed (highly unlikely; Vujcic has been mentioned as one posibility). If he started next to Splitter it would mean that the Brazilian would become the go-to man in the paint for Tau.

Splitter's not a big time producer overseas, so why assume he's going to get it done in the NBA?

Is he anything more than Varejao?

You add his buyout situation to the mix, and I can't imagine his stock being that high.
The impact of Splitter goes well beyond his numbers. That's why he's so intriguing.

He's much more interesting than Varejao because he has a lot more basketball IQ.

You're right about the buyout, but he will only remain in the draft if a buyout is settled and/or receives assurance that he will be picked high. So, either his stock is high for this draft or he will be in the next one.

11player

05-04-2006, 11:51 AM

I'm not sure it was such a bad luck. After all, I still think he will pull out regardless how well he plays in the playoffs. In my opinion, Tau Vitoria will force him to stay another year, although you can't never know.

You are right Luiz, it's pretty safe to say Tiago will not stay in this year's draft.

However, imagine if he had his way in the final 4 and spanish playoffs? a double-double average, some blocks, some steals, consistent play, wouldn't you say it would solidify his draft status and atract a lot more attention to him? maybe even put him in the top-5.

Right now, talent alone, I see him as the sixth best prospect in this class along with Roy and behind Aldridge, Gay, Morrison, Tyrus and Bargnani. That would make him the sixth or sevent pick. But his buyout status will make teams shy away from him a little, specially if no sum is set, causing him to slip and stay in Spain for another year.

With Scola leaving he will have more offensive oportunities and his stats will improve significantly, putting him in a good position to be selected in the top-5 in 2007.

This is the probable outcome for Splitter.

planaria

05-10-2006, 11:05 AM

Tiago Splitter was considered the fourth best big men in the spanish league:

Luis Scola (TAU Cerámica) 14
Jorge Garbajosa (Unicaja) 9
Sitapha Savané (Gran Canaria Grupo Dunas) 8
Tiago Splitter (TAU Cerámica) 2
Lou Roe (Caja San Fernando) 1
Curtis Borchardt (C.B. Granada) 1
Michalis Kakiouzis (Winterthur F.C. Barcelona) 1

planaria

05-11-2006, 01:05 AM

Good news, Splitter is already recovered from the injury and has played 10 minutes in today's game.

Tau's coach want to make sure that he'll be ready for this weekend matchup.

planaria

05-14-2006, 04:23 PM

Great news about Splitter. He looks fully recovered from his injury (at least looking to the box score).

Today, Tau Ceramica won a important matchup against Barcelona (away) in the final game of regular season and has finished in the second place.

Splitter played for 21 minutes. His stats:

16 points
6 rebounds (1 offensive)
6/10 FG and 4/4FT
2 steals
1 assist
3 fouls
3 fouls received

Nice to see this solid game just 2 weeks after that ugly injury in his left shoulder...

planaria

05-18-2006, 08:10 PM

Another solid game by Splitter in the first game of the 2006 playoffs:

28 minutes
16 points (7/12 FG and 2/5 FT)
5 rebounds
1 TO
5 fouls (fouled out)
3 fouls received

He faced Fran Vazquez (drafted by Orlando Magic last year) and like in every time this duel has happened before Splitter won.

Vazquez numbers:

19 minutes
6 points (3/6 FG)
4 rebounds
1 TO
1 foul
1 foul received

Final score:
TAU CERÁMICA 80 x 68 AKASVAYU GIRONA

Aton

05-23-2006, 12:13 PM

Splitter is now listed on the DraftExpress 2007 Mock Draft, but I haven't heard any news regarding his decision to keep his name on the draft or not. Is there any new information?

planaria

05-28-2006, 07:21 PM

Looks like Splitter is playing high intensity basketball in ACB playoffs (he was fouled out for the third time in 4 games). Take a look in his numbers tonight:

19 minutes
11 points (4/4 FG and 3/4 FT)
6 rebounds (3 offensives)
1 block
5 fouls
2 fouls received

The most impressive stats in the box are those from opponents big men (looks like Splitter, Scola and Kornell did a great job in the defensive end and carrying their opponents with fouls):

Fran Vazquez:
9 minutes: 4 points, 1 rebounds and 5 fouls

Dueñas:
17 minutes: 4 points, 4 rebounds and 5 fouls

Kevin Thompson:
33 minutes: 4 points, 10 rebounds

Gabriel German:
17 minutes: 7 points (2/8 FG), 1 rebounds and 5 fouls

Tau Ceramica closed the series against Girona in 3 x 1 and now is going to play against the Barcelona.

Splitter's number in this series:

23 minutes
11 points (54% FG and 69,5% FT)
5,7 rebounds
2,2 offensive rebounds
4,5 fouls
3,7 fouls received

IMO, more Tau Ceramica advance in the playoffs, less chances Splitter has to get a promisse from a lottery team (less time to workout with the teams, he also is gonna be more tired, etc). But BTW, after that stuff by Orlando Magic, I dont doubt of anything...

coachjon

05-28-2006, 07:51 PM

My impression after seeing him play for the first time:
Tiago Splitter- Whether he stays in or not is a different story, but I also like this kid. He is extremely athletic. He also has some nice post up moves. He is more of a banger than Bargnani and fits the NBA 4 spot better. Bargnani is a finesse 4. I have seen comparisons to him of PJ Brown but I dont see them. I think he is way more athletic than PJ Brown. I see more of a comparison to Chris Birdman Anderson and Anderson Varjoa of the Cavs but with more polish. He isn't as raw as those two players. If he is in the draft I defiently see him as lottery material if the buyout issues don't scare people away. To compare him to another draft prospect this year Tyrus Thomas type athlete not as good of a defender, but better post moves.

As of right now he is out of my mock because I have heard he is not coming agian. I have a full 1-60 detailed mock draft in these message boards as well as a report on all international players i have seen play bargnini, splitter, fernandez, and rodriguez.

planaria

06-01-2006, 10:53 AM

http://rapidshare.de/files/21840134/splitterhighlights.avi.html
9:22
90MB

I've found this Splitter's highlights in another forum. It's a must have to see video, because it's a typical Splitter's game...

Aton

06-03-2006, 01:31 AM

Wow, great video! Really shows a lot of his game. Listening several times "the 21-year spaniard" hurts my ears though.

I started a thread in the "Videos" section with that link if you don't mind.

planaria

06-16-2006, 09:39 PM

Looks like Splitter had a below than average game in the first match up from ACB's finals as most of his teammates (actually he was a bit better than them).

Tau was destroyed by Unicaja playing away (81 x 67). Here the Splitter's numbers:

22 minutes
6 points (3/5 FG and 0/4 FT)
10 rebounds (4 offensives)
3 blocks
5 TOs
3 fouls
3 fouls received

I have to find the torrent to take some others conclusions, yet.

Aton

06-17-2006, 03:16 PM

The turnovers and the free throws really killed him, on what would be a really good game, at least stats-wise (with lots of rebounds and blocks)

I was following the game in acb.com. It was interesting how the game was very close until both teams reached about 60 points, but then Unicaja really dominated the game. Solobasket has a recap (below) that says that Unicaja went in the last quarter with a defensive-oriented formation to take control of the game, which was very close until late in the third quarter.

Link for the analysis: http://www.solobasket.com/contenido.php?id=11925
Google-translated: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solobasket.com%2Fcont enido.php%3Fid%3D11925&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Unicaja se adelanta en la final de la liga
Sebastian Souviron Bono
En un partido más igualado de lo que refleja el marcador, el conjunto malagueño logró apuntarse la primera victoria por 81-67

El entrenador de Unicaja, Sergio Scariolo, señaló que "siempre es positivo dar primero, pero todavía estamos en el inicio del camino". El técnico de Brescia es consciente de que sus jugadores no pueden confiarse, especialmente, después de ver cómo el DKV Joventut igualaba una serie de semifinales que se había puesto de cara para el equipo malagueño tras los dos primeros partidos disputados en Málaga.

El encuentro comenzó con el Baskonia muy enchufado al partido, adquiriendo una ventaja mínima que los locales sólo consiguieron enjugar al final del primer cuarto. Desde ese momento, el partido se movió en diferencias muy pequeñas, hasta llegar al final del tercer cuarto, cuando dos triples de Garbajosa y uno de Cabezas, cambiaron la dinámica del juego para poner por delante al Unicaja, como apuntaba Velimir Perasovic: "Recibimos dos triples por errores defensivos y un palmeo en el último segundo del tercer cuarto. Teníamos la oportunidad de irnos al último cuarto con ventaja, y esto siempre es importante, pero no pudo ser".

En el último cuarto, Scariolo puso en pista un cinco de marcado corte defensivo (Cabezas-Brown-Berni Rodríguez-Pietrus y Garbajosa), que maniató completamente el juego de ataque baskonista, como él mismo reconoció: "Hemos ido de menos a más en defensa, pero en una final hay que defender perfecto todo el tiempo, algo que sólo hemos sabido hacer en el último cuarto". Alrededor de esta defensa cimentó Unicaja su despegue final en el marcador, mientras que el técnico de Split trataba de mover el banquillo en sus posiciones exteriores para desatascar su ofensiva, aunque sin éxito.

Uno de los principales damnificados de esta defensa fue Luis Scola, que se quedó en 8 puntos (muy lejos de sus números habituales) ya que los jugadores malagueños sólo le permitieron tirar 5 veces a canasta, impidiéndole recibir y tapándole todas las líneas de pase.

El domingo a las 19:15 y en el mismo escenario, tendrá lugar la segunda batalla de esta contienda que tiene como premio el título de la ACB.

planaria

06-18-2006, 04:27 PM

Tau Ceramica lost again in the final series (83 x 78), but Splitter was one of the best players on court (he tied as the game scorer in very limited minutes). He also had 6 points in the last 3 minutes.

Splitter's numbers:

21 minutes
16 points (7/9 FGS and 2/2 FTs)
5 rebounds (2 offensives)
2 assists
1 steal
4 TOs
4 fouls
2 fouls received
14 efficiency points

Aton

08-13-2006, 12:54 PM

Splitter just had a monster game against China. He dominated the paint on both ends of floor whenever he was on the court, and Brazil played MUCH better every time he was on the flloor.

He had a very interesting test today, in a matchup against Yao Ming, which is IMO the best center in the world today. I missed the first three minutes of action, and Yao had already 5 points by the time I started watching. One of the first plays I saw was a beautiful mid range hook by Yao, heavily contested by Splitter, that after bouncing the rim went in. After those 7 early points, Splitter did such a tremendous job that Yao could hardly do anything. Neither Splitter nor Yao played many minutes during the game, and both were usually on court at the same time, so it was basically a matchup between them.

On the defensive end, Splitter fought hard for position and generally had success. Doing that, he bothered his opponent to the point that Yao threw his elbow at Splitter's face in a play, while both were fighting for position. When Yao managed to get the ball, Splitter left no room for him to drive to the basket or shoot the ball. The result was that Yao rarely had a chance to attempt a move, and had the ball stolen several times by Brazilian guards. Overall, Splitter inside presence still altered some shots and helped put on the defensive pressure that Brazilians game heavily relies on to create fastbreak opportunities, wich is its main offensive weapon.

On offense Splitter was amazing. He finished oft and sucessfully near the basket, driving against Yao Ming, Yi Jianlin and others, usually after another Brazilian had drawn the defence. He also asked a lot for the ball on the post and then went on to display a very good footwork, usually against Yao and help defence, managing to get a basket or a foul in almost all occasions. It helped him that China presumed Yao would be able to contain Splitter, so they gave him space to play one-on-one. Finally, Splitter also took advantage of his quickness to move around Yao and receive passes in Yao's back. Another important thing is that Splitter was able to control one his main weakness, that is not to be able to finish after being hit. This time he managed to keep the ball and his body under control and converted a couple of three point plays.

As expected, Splitter didn't stand out in the rebounds department. It is obvious that he's a step behind Anderson Varejão (which, btw, has elite rebounding skills, even when compared to NBA players), and was out-rebounded by Yi Jianlin, even though slightly.

Overall, of the friendly games I watched so far (a couple against New Zealand, and another against Germany), it was definately his best game. On those other games, he had trouble finishing around the basket and didn't stand out as a defensive presence like he did today, but that is because New Zealand's game is 100% perimeter oriented and because he didn't guard Nowitzky. I've heard he schooled Scola in the game against Argentina though.

wardjdim

08-13-2006, 03:49 PM

I have to agree. Splitter had a great game both sides, except from that block of Yi on him...

naomi

08-13-2006, 04:47 PM

I have to agree. Splitter had a great game both sides, except from that block of Yi on him...

Yi got double-double once more!(19points+12reb+2blk)!amazing field goal percentage ( 7/7=100%!!)
He grabbed most of rebounds on Splitter&Varejao's head.

This kid is taller than Splitter.

planaria

08-13-2006, 06:21 PM

Splitter simply owned Yao Ming in this game. Few times even in the NBA I saw somebody guard Yao Ming so well in man on man defense...

Yi was also very nice. No doubts he's going to sucess in the NBA in a near future.

Edit: I was waiting for this kind of Splitter's exibition since the warmups began and he finaly played the basketball he uses to play in Europe. I was a bit disapointed with Splitter in these few last games, but he simply had a wonderful performance against a superstar 7-6 NBA center.

Aton

08-13-2006, 06:26 PM

Yi got double-double once more!(19points+12reb+2blk)!amazing field goal percentage ( 7/7=100%!!)
He grabbed most of rebounds on Splitter&Varejao's head.

This kid is taller than Splitter.

Yes, Yi had a great game too. I can't find the boxscore to post the big men stats.

Yi was better as a better rebounder when compaired against Splitter. I'm not sure if he is taller, but when it comes to rebounding, he has better positioning, reflexes, and jumps quicker and higher than Splitter. But I wouldn't say that Yi si a better rebounder than Varejão.

I may be wrong, but I'd say that Yi got a good deal of his production when Splitter and Varejão were on the bench. I shouldn't mention it as a disavantage, as it should be praised that he managed to avoid foul trouble (even though some of the Brazilian fouls were def. questionable). But it makes it more difficult to compare these guys performance relying only on stats.

My conclusion is that the Varejão / Splitter tandem outplayed Yao / Yi. It'd be nice if someone could measure how far from his best form Yao Ming actually is.

naomi

08-13-2006, 09:54 PM

Yes, Yi had a great game too. I can't find the boxscore to post the big men stats.

Yi was better as a better rebounder when compaired against Splitter. I'm not sure if he is taller, but when it comes to rebounding, he has better positioning, reflexes, and jumps quicker and higher than Splitter. But I wouldn't say that Yi si a better rebounder than Varejão.

I may be wrong, but I'd say that Yi got a good deal of his production when Splitter and Varejão were on the bench. I shouldn't mention it as a disavantage, as it should be praised that he managed to avoid foul trouble (even though some of the Brazilian fouls were def. questionable). But it makes it more difficult to compare these guys performance relying only on stats.

My conclusion is that the Varejão / Splitter tandem outplayed Yao / Yi. It'd be nice if someone could measure how far from his best form Yao Ming actually is.
Do you mean the total of Varejão's rebounds is more than Yi's?
actuality,Varejão got only 8 reb! I watch their competition from cover to cover,YI defend Varejão all the time, make Varejão's only got 12points(against Germany,he got 20points),he also block Splitter's shot !

YAO got 16 points+6reb
YI got 19 points + 12reb+2blk
Splitter got 18 points+ 6reb
Varejão got 12points+8reb
-------------------------
16+19>18+12===>YAO+YI > Splitter+Varejão ,your conclusion is a big wrong!

I like this kid!

Aton

08-13-2006, 11:24 PM

Do you mean the total of Varejão's rebounds is more than Yi's?
actuality,Varejão got only 8 reb! I watch their competition from cover to cover,YI defend Varejão all the time, make Varejão's only got 12points(against Germany,he got 20points),he also block Splitter's shot !

YAO got 16 points+6reb
YI got 19 points + 12reb+2blk
Splitter got 18 points+ 6reb
Varejão got 12points+8reb
-------------------------
16+19>18+12===>YAO+YI > Splitter+Varejão ,your conclusion is a big wrong!

I like this kid!

Read my message again. Saying that Yi isn't a better rebounder than Varejão, doesn't imply that Varejão had more rebounds in this game, and doesn't even say that Varejão is a better rebounder than Yi. I just cannot make my mind about it yet, because I don't have the number of rebounds per minute both guys got, and because I've seen Varejão grab tons of boards in a consistent basis against quality opposition (you could even say that today he was just ok) while I've just seen Yi do it once.

Do you have the number of minutes played? Can you give us a link to the boxscore?

About Yi+Ming vs Splitter+Varejão: You can't just compare the numbers and tell who was better. The defence played by Varejão and Splitter had a great influence on the many fastbreak points Leandrinho Barbosa had on the third quarter, for example, the quarter that decided the outcome of the game. And most of those points were made after Yao had the ball stolen (that's not on your stats either).

Anyway, great game by Yi. He's very young, will only get better.

naomi

08-14-2006, 08:43 AM

show you an interesting pic:
YI & Splitter in Tip-Off!

http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060813/Img244772177.jpg

planaria

08-14-2006, 11:43 AM

He jumped first...

Interesting pic:

http://www.cbb.com.br/basquete_virtual/images/Mundial_Masc_2006/b/039b.jpg

:rolleyes:

Hitster

08-14-2006, 01:06 PM

This is probably the sort of performance that has justified the hype around Splitter, when you see him one-on-one with Yao, you realise that the guy is NBA ready and will be a top pick. He may not go above Oden as he is 3 years older and Oden has incerdible upside but the guy could easily go 2nd pick above Noah. Yi has also impressed me especially in the game against the US, he didn't look out of place against the likes of Dwight Howard, this could cause his draft position to rocket. Of course there is always the fact that someone like Yi hasn't played the type of games you see in the NBA and the language barrier could be a slight problem depending what his grasp of English is like. The ideal team in many ways for Yi would be Houston as PF with Yao as the Centre, with Yao around it would help him settle and overcome the culture difference and also if Mutombo is offered any sort of coaching role by Houston when he retires who better to learn the tricks of defensive play from.

planaria

08-19-2006, 07:54 AM

Aton

08-19-2006, 01:36 PM

One of few positives points of today's game between Brazil x Australia was Splitter outplaying Andrew Bogut.

He made really nice defense again and was able to go to the line a lot in the other side of the court.

16 points/7 rebounds to Splitter.

Yes, Splitter displayed one more time that he can lock down NBA centers. Bogut had a basket against Splitter early in the game, but had to wait until (if I'm not wrong) late in the third quarter to do it again, even though Bogut was the center of Australia's offense and was offered an opportunity to matchup one-on-one against Splitter whenever he wanted.

I'm not sure, but I think that the referees were being a bit strict, so I wanted to see Splitter finishing better even when he was fouled. Anyway, it was nice to see that he found a good rhythm on his free throw shot, that he demanded the ball a lot on the post (even in a Brazilian offensive scheme that doesn't favor him) and, most importantly, that he could create points opportunities after receiving the ball.

By the way, If I were a GM in the NBA I'd be kicking myself right now for not drafting him....

ecuhus

08-19-2006, 04:04 PM

planaria

08-19-2006, 05:02 PM

Yo ucouldn't have him right now even if you DID draft him.

But yeah, if he would've stayed in this year, he'd have fallen into the late teens. Not because of his ability, but because of his buyout (or lack thereof). That would have been a steal for someone, but only if they have the current talent to be patient for him.

He wouldnt has stayed in this year in any way, unless he had a promisse to be a lottery pick.

And I disagree. Altought his potential maybe isnt bigger as some others, I cant see many rookies readier to play between the pros than Splitter right now.

Aton

08-19-2006, 10:09 PM

Yo ucouldn't have him right now even if you DID draft him.

But yeah, if he would've stayed in this year, he'd have fallen into the late teens. Not because of his ability, but because of his buyout (or lack thereof). That would have been a steal for someone, but only if they have the current talent to be patient for him.

I know that. I'd draft him anyway, and let him one more year developing his game in Europe.

When I look at his performance this summer and what some other big men that were drafted in the lottery did in the summer leagues, I feel positive that I'd rather have him in one year than having those guys right now.

planaria

08-20-2006, 07:05 AM

Splitter used very well his physical and techincal advantage in today's game against Qatar "big men". He was dominant in both sides of the court and showed a nice arsenal of dunks , including a nice one handed after a steal in the defensive court.

In the other hand, I still a bit concerned about his low numbers of rebounds...

11player

08-28-2006, 02:57 PM

Splitter played very well at the W. Championships despite Brazil's big disappointment.

He was the best player of the team, the most consistent and finally did show some offensive game.

However, his weak body still steals the best of him as he has trouble maintaining his balance against heavier, stronger players.

his numbers were OK, good on scoring but a little short on rebounding and blocking.

coachjon

10-25-2006, 10:53 AM

i can see splitter going anywhere this year from the top 3 to the late first round. i think he will end up being a good complimentary/roleplaying starter in the nba.
athletic, he is a scorer, has good one on one moves, can score down low with power, he is mobile and has a lot of good international experience. he still needs to gain strength to play at the nba level defensively, needs to become a better rebounder, still a little raw.

11player

10-25-2006, 06:19 PM

Oh boy! Tau has maybe the top frontcourt in Europe right now, extremelly deep with Peker, Scola, Spliter, Teletovic, Fajardo and Nicola.

That's not really good for Splitter as it will probably decrease his minutes.

It's a pity he got hurt and couldn't continue his good moment from the WC and Supercopa.

Hitster

10-26-2006, 09:17 AM

11player

10-26-2006, 05:08 PM

Splitter is an interesting draft choice as he is listed as going anywhere between 3rd and about 20th on various drafts. Personally I think he is a top 3 pick, I like his game a lot, he is NBA ready, may not have as much upside as Noah but will do a very good job for an NBA team and can score points as well. In the World Championship he looked an equal of many NBA players (held his own against Yao). But for his buyout he could have been drafted for a few years now but will only be 22 next summer so this will not effect his value that much and he plays in a very good league already so his game will not need such a big step as Yi's might when he comes to the NBA.

I agree.
The way I see it, right now, Tiago is the third pick, but that could change depending on the kind of season the prospects will have, early declarations or not, injuries, the teams lottery positions and buyouts.

The good thing for Tiago is that he is a proven player at this point, a safe pick, with experience at several diferent levels and against top NBA players. However, there are several players that could climb ahead of him with a good season, as they will probably get more pt then Splitter. McRoberts, Julian Wright, Rush, Brewer, M.Williams, Young, Durant, are examples.

11player

11-24-2006, 04:29 PM

His first good game after coming back from injury, by the way, he always is unlucky enough to pick one every time he is on a good run.

vs Climamio

11 pts
11 rebs

11player

11-27-2006, 05:27 PM

Spanish League:
12 pts and 5 rebs in just 16 minutes is not bad at all

pablinho

12-06-2006, 04:58 PM

splitter is not playing fine here in spain... he played better last year.

11player

12-15-2006, 05:17 PM

I've just watched Splitter's euroleague game this week.

Although he had a good game statistically, he did look passive on the court.

I would like to see him more agressive, more willing to dominate the post and not have limited players like Bourousis go for 15 and 12.

11player

03-20-2007, 12:53 PM

I just wanted to know opinions about how far can Splitter climb up the draft if he takes this good moment of his till the end of the season.
???

KristianH

03-20-2007, 01:12 PM

I don`t see him getting drafted infront of following players:

Oden, Durant, J. Wright, B. Wright, Noah, Horford, Hawes, Hibbert
- so late lottery is probably maximum for him, altrought i expect him to be drafted a bit later in 15-20 range.

coachjon

03-20-2007, 03:59 PM

i would agree he won't get drafted ahead of those guys unless his stock shoots way up or one of theirs shoots way down before the draft. late lottery to late first round my range on him would be 10-25.

wardjdim

03-20-2007, 05:18 PM

I believe that Tiago has the skills to be drafted in the top-10, under certain circumstances.

The problem is that his buy out clause is still unknown (or not determined) and his rather unstable season so far, due to his injury, a situation that has just recently been altered and he now plays well in a regular basis, trying to cover the lost ground. If he continues dominating the way he does during the past 3 weeks and he helps Tau reach at least the EL Final Four (very possible) and the ACB title (again, very possible), being a factor in both competitions, then it should be considered a surprise to see him out of the lottery, especially if his buy out clause is not extremely high.

11player

03-21-2007, 12:36 PM

I think Splitter would have to put some huge games and average a constant double-double all the way to Euroleague final 4 and Spanish Finals to go past some of these guys we are talking about.

About his buyout, I think Tau will ask for 2 million euros or something around that, to get some compensation rather than see him walk away for nothing the following year. 1.5 mil. euros is what a player like Splitter costs in Europe these days.

Anyway, after the top-7 things start to get difficult as Splitter might not have enough money to pay his buyout, forcing him to stay for one more year in Spain and slip down the draft.

ecuhus

03-21-2007, 02:11 PM

NBA teams can only pay US$500,000 toward his buyout, so it would seem the choice is up to him if/when he wants to come. Maybe Nene could front him some $ (like Divac did for Krstic, I think); otherwise, he'd have to pony up more than US$2 million! When does his contract end? Does the buyout get ANY cheaper during the life of the contract? IE, could he get a cheaper buyout if he waited?

Sort of like drafting players with a sketchy character history, teams that will be interested in Splitter will probably be ones who won't be hindered if he never makes it here. That's why I say, late 1st-round is his destination. But he'd be extremely enticing to, say, Boston or the Lakers, in the early 2nd round if 1st-round teams were scared away because of the buyout.

Hitster

03-21-2007, 02:36 PM

How about Burford pulls a deal if Splitter falls to late 20's in the draft, he drafts Splitter for the Spurs but allows him to stay with Tau if they release Scola. Tau keep one of their stars, Scola gets to the NBA and would probably contribute more currently than Splitter and the Spurs still have Splitter up their sleves. He is still only 22, so they could wait a few years and when he is say 24/25 bring him over as he would be a nice piece in their rotation and could help to manage Duncan's minutes as he would be 32/33 then.

coachjon

03-21-2007, 03:51 PM

i don't know when his contract is up but i do know it has been the reason he has pulled out of previous drafts and maybe why he slips again this year when he is automatically eligible. somebody will call his name but his situation reminds me of when maciej lampe fell to the knicks with the #1 pick in the second round after being projected as lottery pick and Nowitzki type talent because of his buyout issues.

Genjuro

03-21-2007, 04:40 PM

Apparently his contract runs up in 2008. If this is correct, he could slip if he can't settle a buyout prior to the draft, but I don't think he will drop that much. I mean, it wouldn't be so strange that a team selecting in the 15-25 range, and even in the late lottery, opts to wait one year for a guy like him. From my point of view, out of the lottery he would likely be a steal, and I would always wait one year for a steal in the draft. The second round is out of question; he won't drop that far.

11player, you might find a Splitter-caliber player with 1.5 mil., but chances are you won't find a Spanish inside player with that money because virtually there aren't any left to be bought (perhaps Triguero from Murcia is the closest thing avialable, but he's not anywhere near Splitter). Splitter has Spanish passport, and Tau will have troubles getting the required 5-Spanish-players cuota in its roster.

11player

03-22-2007, 12:13 PM

11player, you might find a Splitter-caliber player with 1.5 mil., but chances are you won't find a Spanish inside player with that money because virtually there aren't any left to be bought (perhaps Triguero from Murcia is the closest thing avialable, but he's not anywhere near Splitter). Splitter has Spanish passport, and Tau will have troubles getting the required 5-Spanish-players cuota in its roster.

That's true, I forgot about that spanish situation. One more reason why Splitter is so valuable to Tau and will not be released for less than 2 million euros, probably more.

The information I've heard is both Scola and Splitter contracts run for one more season, finishing in 2008.
With both players wanting to leave for the NBA it kind of forces Tau into a rebuilding mode, but only if they get fair compensation I'd say.
Tau is a tough team to deal with, they value their talents a lot.

Hitster

03-22-2007, 12:40 PM

If a team had to wait a year or cough up say 2 million Euros, they would just defer for a year. If Splitter's contract is up in 2008, he'll only be 23 and could still have a decade or so in the NBA. Teams with multiple picks if he fell down the draft could look at him, Philly with one of their picks from Denver could look at him as he'd help them fill in their PF minutes, likewise the Spurs, they have Scola, why not take Splitter and bring them both over in 2008, a lot of their contracts expire then and both these guys would be a nice mix to fill in behind Duncan and share out the Centre minutes if the Spurs continue with their rotation at 5.

Genjuro

03-22-2007, 01:22 PM

That's true, I forgot about that spanish situation. One more reason why Splitter is so valuable to Tau and will not be released for less than 2 million euros, probably more.

The information I've heard is both Scola and Splitter contracts run for one more season, finishing in 2008.
With both players wanting to leave for the NBA it kind of forces Tau into a rebuilding mode, but only if they get fair compensation I'd say.
Tau is a tough team to deal with, they value their talents a lot.
Yep. And we'll see how Tau deals with that rebuild. Scola has a Spanish passport too. It means they will likely need to sign Spanish players to replace them both and meet the quota. Since the arrival of this rule (a couple of years ago), Spanish players are logically more expensive than ever, so teams are usually forced to overpay in order to get them. Tau is one of the teams that will likely suffer the most with this rule, as they like to sign young foreign talent to develop, and barely have a pool of domestic players.

planaria

04-15-2007, 01:25 PM

Splitter is making a big noise in Europe recently.

Today he had another monster game against the former NBA player, Bruno Sundov (7-3 ft).

30 mins
17 points
6/8 FG e 5/7 FT
11 rebounds (5 offensive)
2 steals
3 blocks
2 TO's
2 fouls
7 fouls received
31 eff. points

In his last 10 games he's averaging:

28,3 mpg
13,9 ppg (60% FG)
7,7 rpg (2,9 orpg)
0,9 apg
1,4 spg
1,3 TOpg
1,1 bpg

nextstar1019

04-15-2007, 02:30 PM

not bad but the talent over there is nothing compared to the nba

Jonathan

04-15-2007, 02:43 PM

not bad but the talent over there is nothing compared to the nba

neither is the talent in the ncaa.

GuiaMarca

04-15-2007, 04:29 PM

Splitter´s game is being better since the arrival of the new coach, Boza Maljkovic.

planaria

04-15-2007, 11:38 PM

neither is the talent in the ncaa.

I couldnt find a better answer.

How many 7-3 big men with NBA experience guys like Oden/Noah/etc faced in their NCAA season?

Toxicity

04-17-2007, 06:12 PM

I couldnt find a better answer.

How many 7-3 big men with NBA experience guys like Oden/Noah/etc faced in their NCAA season?

102 games played in 9 seasons with 1.7 ppg and 1.0 rpg in just 5.1 mpg and you called that "NBA experience"? :confused:

I'd call that "NBA garbage time"... ;)

The level of NCAA < Euroleague but i don't agree about the fact that Bruno Sundov is a reliable test for a young big man like Tiago... c'mon, there are much better Cs in Europe, even if Bruno is playing quite well in the Liga ACB.

wombat6802

04-17-2007, 07:11 PM

But this is after HOURS of practice with NBA-level big man/conditioning/strength/and head coaches. There is no comparison...

Sixers

05-06-2007, 04:09 PM

Why isnt he in the NBA Draft list. Did he not declare or something.

ecuhus

05-06-2007, 05:27 PM

He's 1985 born.

11player

05-08-2007, 04:56 PM

I believe Splitter hurt his draft stock with his poor performance in Euroleague Final 4. I expected more.

He seemed a bit lethargic there, specially in the game against Pana. He definetely needs to be more agressive and develop a killer instinct.

Probably fell out of the top-10 picks by now, which is really bad news for him, regarding his buyout situation.

It will take him some big showings in Spanish playoffs to improve his stock.

I think there are two situations for him in this draft:
- first, he gets a top-8 selection which will give him enough money for his buyout and comes directly to the NBA;
- second, he can't get a top-8 selection and then falls out of the lottery, as he will not have enough money for his buyout, being forced to stay in Tau for another year, automatically becoming less valuable, specially to teams that need help right away.

planaria

05-18-2007, 09:06 PM

Splitter had 17 points and 8 rebounds (5 offensive) in the first game of the quarter-finals series against Unicaja.

Rakocevic had a monster game hitting 8 of 9 treys in just 21 minutes (33 points).

http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB51307.php

Genjuro

05-18-2007, 10:09 PM

Splitter had 17 points and 8 rebounds (5 offensive) in the first game of the quarter-finals series against Unicaja.
Tiago just toyed Unicaja's (decimated) frontcourt, particularly benefiting from his offensive rebounds and showing again his improved low post game in one-on-one settings.

wardjdim

05-19-2007, 09:29 AM

I still have the feeling that he should keep this pace all the way up to the ACB finals in order to be drafted in the top-10. Right now, even lottery seems tough for him to reach, after the final four. NBA.com has him out of the lottery in its consensus mock draft, which is created from the mock drafts of DX and 5 other credible sources. Until yesterday, we had him at #11 and we were the only ones to include him in the lottery.

Still, Tiago has the skills to become a steady force for Tau, even at the end of the way.

case9

01-22-2008, 10:28 PM

Does anyone here know how Splitters been going since he was drafted. Is he still playing at the reliable level he has over the last few seasons? Has his offense developed? Has he taken on a larger role in his teams offense? Has he regressed, been injured?

On a side note, it'd be great to have updates on the players who have already been drafted, not just the young players who are possible future draftees.

Case9.

coachjon

01-22-2008, 10:47 PM

he is still playing for the same team starting this year playing 21min averaging 13pts 6reb 1stl shooting 64%FG last year he was a off and on starter playing 24min averaging 11pts 6reb 1stl shooting 58%FG.

haven't actually seen any of the games so don't know what to tell you on if he has developed or not any new moves but he seems to have a larger role this year on the team.

Hitster

01-23-2008, 06:42 AM

Depending on what the Spurs do with Elson and Oberto and how Mahimi develops could well effect if Splitter comes over this year or next. I seem to recall his buyout will fall this year to enable him to come over and having fallen to 28th pick whatever value he gives them is a huge value as they have him for 4 years on a rookie contract allowing them to add depth elsewhere.

case9

01-23-2008, 08:26 PM

Yeah, with Mahimi looking very promising this year, and Splitter having the potential to be a very nice sidekick to Duncan, the Spurs look like they might have a future after all.

Case.

Hitster

01-24-2008, 08:04 AM

The Spurs are obviously ageing but they still look as solid as ever and come play-offs they tend to become even harder to beat. Popovich and Burford are probably the best Coach.GM combo in the NBA and a successful team like the Spurs will always attract quality veterans who are after a winners medal so the likely departures of Horry, Barry etc over the next season or two can be covered this way. Duncan will continue to do what he does best maybe being the most effective player on a win-stats ratio in the league and if Ginobli and Parker can continue to provide good support then I'd back the Spurs front office to keep them competitive via dradts, trades, free agency etc.